My Gripes with STID!

[TRON JA307020]

To be fair, so far the Enterprise has faced an enormously mutated 24th century vessel flown by a madman, and a designed-to-be-a-juggernaut battleship captained by a corrupt admiral with nothing to lose.

Kinda gonna take a beating in those circumstances.

Yeah but come on 2 movies in a row the Enterprise goes up against a big black ship that's way more powerful. Talk about repeat. I would rather have saw a cool battle in which the Enterprise got in a few good shots. The reason TWOK was so great was the battles were more interesting and the battles were determined on who was the better strategist not who had the big bad ship.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

To the topic but unrelated to the above comment:

Lens flare must have been mentioned in this thread by now. It's my gripe because I loathe mindless habit, and trying to pass off what was once a sign of amateurish work as now being somehow artful is dumb. Puh-lease. Emperor's clothes.

You're hilarious, keep it up.

 

[Smellmet]

To be fair, so far the Enterprise has faced an enormously mutated 24th century vessel flown by a madman, and a designed-to-be-a-juggernaut battleship captained by a corrupt admiral with nothing to lose.

Kinda gonna take a beating in those circumstances.

Yeah but come on 2 movies in a row the Enterprise goes up against a big black ship that's way more powerful. Talk about repeat. I would rather have saw a cool battle in which the Enterprise got in a few good shots. The reason TWOK was so great was the battles were more interesting and the battles were determined on who was the better strategist not who had the big bad ship.

Make that three movies in a row... But you're right, I'm sick to death of Big Black Death Ship™ in Star Trek (unless the Borg show up) I want to see a battle that's a bit more creative and interesting - maybe a chase into a planets atmosphere or something as we've had two nebula battles. Bar the Kelvin battle in ST09 I've found the spaceship action in these new movies lacking. Less people punching each other in the face and more ship action please!

 

[M'Sharak]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

To the topic but unrelated to the above comment:

Lens flare must have been mentioned in this thread by now. It's my gripe because I loathe mindless habit, and trying to pass off what was once a sign of amateurish work as now being somehow artful is dumb. Puh-lease. Emperor's clothes.

You're hilarious, keep it up.

Eh, let's not.

One is not required to like lens flare if one is disinclined to do so—no one has been saying otherwise—but the volume and vehemence of complaints made over the ones in the Abrams Trek movies is ridiculously out of proportion. If one is sincerely angry or offended or scornful re: lens-flare-as-intentional-effect in Star Trek, one ought also to display equally vocal and persistent anger/offense/scorn/etc. toward the use of same in Blade Runner, Close Encounters, and a host of other decidedly non-amateurish movie and television productions going back at least to the 1950s and 1960s, if not further.

Now, perhaps that might seem worthwhile to someone, but it sounds like too much like drudgery to me - too many negative waves, Moriarty.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

To the topic but unrelated to the above comment:

Lens flare must have been mentioned in this thread by now. It's my gripe because I loathe mindless habit, and trying to pass off what was once a sign of amateurish work as now being somehow artful is dumb. Puh-lease. Emperor's clothes.

You're hilarious, keep it up.

Eh, let's not.

One is not required to like lens flare if one is disinclined to do so—no one has been saying otherwise—but the volume and vehemence of complaints made over the ones in the Abrams Trek movies is ridiculously out of proportion. If one is sincerely angry or offended or scornful re: lens-flare-as-intentional-effect in Star Trek, one ought also to display equally vocal and persistent anger/offense/scorn/etc. toward the use of same in Blade Runner, Close Encounters, and a host of other decidedly non-amateurish movie and television productions going back at least to the 1950s and 1960s, if not further.

Now, perhaps that might seem worthwhile to someone, but it sounds like too much like drudgery to me - too many negative waves, Moriarty.

I was referring to his first sentence, which I took to be a joke. A parody of the fan mentality.

 

[IrishNero]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

To the topic but unrelated to the above comment:

Lens flare must have been mentioned in this thread by now. It's my gripe because I loathe mindless habit, and trying to pass off what was once a sign of amateurish work as now being somehow artful is dumb. Puh-lease. Emperor's clothes.

Ugh! That damn lens flare. I honestly didn't pay it much attention until someone pointed it out on another forum years ago. Now I can't get it out of my head!

 

[JWPlatt]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

To the topic but unrelated to the above comment:

Lens flare must have been mentioned in this thread by now. It's my gripe because I loathe mindless habit, and trying to pass off what was once a sign of amateurish work as now being somehow artful is dumb. Puh-lease. Emperor's clothes.

You're hilarious, keep it up.

Eh, let's not.

One is not required to like lens flare if one is disinclined to do so—no one has been saying otherwise—but the volume and vehemence of complaints made over the ones in the Abrams Trek movies is ridiculously out of proportion. If one is sincerely angry or offended or scornful re: lens-flare-as-intentional-effect in Star Trek, one ought also to display equally vocal and persistent anger/offense/scorn/etc. toward the use of same in Blade Runner, Close Encounters, and a host of other decidedly non-amateurish movie and television productions going back at least to the 1950s and 1960s, if not further.

Now, perhaps that might seem worthwhile to someone, but it sounds like too much like drudgery to me - too many negative waves, Moriarty.

I was referring to his first sentence, which I took to be a joke. A parody of the fan mentality.

@M'Sharak: 1) I probably didn't notice in all those other movies because they maybe were one-offs and not a bad habit. But if they weren't simply one-offs, I guess they just didn't show the director shining WWII search lights down the barrel of the camera in their Making-Of featurettes like the Emperor saying, "Look what I made - ain't these clothes pretty?" Or maybe it was just a mistake for the production to point it out and reinforce or validate fans like me making inane comments about it.

@Nerys Myk: Yes, and with no sarcasm intended, I appreciate intelligent people like you.

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

To the topic but unrelated to the above comment:

Lens flare must have been mentioned in this thread by now. It's my gripe because I loathe mindless habit, and trying to pass off what was once a sign of amateurish work as now being somehow artful is dumb. Puh-lease. Emperor's clothes.

Ugh! That damn lens flare. I honestly didn't pay it much attention until someone pointed it out on another forum years ago. Now I can't get it out of my head!

It's like an allergy. Once you're exposed enough to cause a reaction, sensitivity becomes amplified.

 

[eyeresist]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

I thought the opening scene of ST09 was spectacular, but no subsequent scene has lived up to it. I'm hoping that, with a new director, we'll see a couple of really grandiose space shots in the new movie.

 

[Smellmet]

I wrote to Paramount after each movie telling them I'll never watch another one.

I thought the opening scene of ST09 was spectacular, but no subsequent scene has lived up to it. I'm hoping that, with a new director, we'll see a couple of really grandiose space shots in the new movie.

Couldn't agree more. I loved STID, but I thought some of the visual effects bordered on the cheesy.

 

[IrishNero]

We can pray that JJ's lens flare guy went with him to annoy all of the Star Wars fans...

 

[Rincewiend]

To be fair, so far the Enterprise has faced an enormously mutated 24th century vessel flown by a madman, and a designed-to-be-a-juggernaut battleship captained by a corrupt admiral with nothing to lose.

Kinda gonna take a beating in those circumstances.

Yeah but come on 2 movies in a row the Enterprise goes up against a big black ship that's way more powerful. Talk about repeat. I would rather have saw a cool battle in which the Enterprise got in a few good shots. The reason TWOK was so great was the battles were more interesting and the battles were determined on who was the better strategist not who had the big bad ship.

Make that three movies in a row... But you're right, I'm sick to death of Big Black Death Ship™ in Star Trek (unless the Borg show up) I want to see a battle that's a bit more creative and interesting - maybe a chase into a planets atmosphere or something as we've had two nebula battles. Bar the Kelvin battle in ST09 I've found the spaceship action in these new movies lacking. Less people punching each other in the face and more ship action please!

Ah, the shipping...

 

[IrishNero]

The Enterprise is supposed to be the new flagship; a badass. It was getting its arse kicked the moment it left spacedock in the first movie and the driver didn't even know to disengage the inertial dampeners (even I know that). Is there not a defenseless alien civilization that they cannot take on for no good reason before getting walloped? How about woefully under-armed Klingon outpost or something? Geez, they're showing up to all of the dances wearing dresses when everyone else has their pants on...

 

[Mudd]

Enterprise took some early hits, but after a needed change of captains wiped out the Death Ship that had destroyed a big chunk of both the Federation and Klingon fleets. Not too shabby for a shakedown cruise.

 

[fireproof78]

The Enterprise is supposed to be the new flagship; a badass. It was getting its arse kicked the moment it left spacedock in the first movie and the driver didn't even know to disengage the inertial dampeners (even I know that). Is there not a defenseless alien civilization that they cannot take on for no good reason before getting walloped? How about woefully under-armed Klingon outpost or something? Geez, they're showing up to all of the dances wearing dresses when everyone else has their pants on...

Where the sportsmanship in that?

 

[IrishNero]

There's no sportsmanship. I'm just venting.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The Enterprise is supposed to be the new flagship; a badass. It was getting its arse kicked the moment it left spacedock in the first movie and the driver didn't even know to disengage the inertial dampeners (even I know that). Is there not a defenseless alien civilization that they cannot take on for no good reason before getting walloped? How about woefully under-armed Klingon outpost or something? Geez, they're showing up to all of the dances wearing dresses when everyone else has their pants on...

Where the sportsmanship in that?

Yeah, Rocky has to lose a fight so he can come back and win in the end

 

[fireproof78]

There's no sportsmanship. I'm just venting.

Don't worry. They'll find the Care Bear planet soon and deal with it appropriately.

 

[IrishNero]

There's no sportsmanship. I'm just venting.

Don't worry. They'll find the Care Bear planet soon and deal with it appropriately.

Oh, what I wouldn't do to see them find a civilization of defenseless snuggles.

 

[BillJ]

I actually like the Enterprise and the Federation being underdogs. It gives the Abramsverse a distinct flavor.

 

[IrishNero]

I guess it beats besting the same ol' Klingon Birds of Prey, captained by Doc Brown/Jim Ignatowski.