Re: My Greivences of Nutrek. What makes me a hater... You don't RC. For one thing, as viewers we wouldn't have much more information than Kirk at that point, so if we knew the things Khan was telling Kirk were lies at the time we first saw the scene, Kirk probably should also have known this. But Kirk's behavior doesn't indicate any such knowledge, and it wouldn't make much sense for Khan to be telling Kirk things that were obviously lies. But do you mean that we found them to be lies later on in the film? Because that didn't happen either. But even if we were to rewrite Khan's dialogue and pepper it with things we "know" to be lies, it still wouldn't really matter. It still doesn't become reasonable to assume that Khan is someone who lies for no discernible purpose. And lying about the sequence of events serves no purpose if his objectives are equally served by not lying about the sequence of events.