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My DS9 Rewatch Odyssey

It should be noted that the subordinate is actually a legate (Kell per the novels if not canonically) who was Dukat's superior. So basically Dukat's boss told him he'd have to go down with his shi...er, station. I do love that moment, especially because for me at least my first thought was that the station had simply blocked transporters or such; having Kell pop onto the monitors berating Dukat was even better!

Also, though it may not be as evident at this point in the series, Dukat is such an egomaniac that I can totally see him taking the time to record all of those messages and not trusting his own troops to properly protect him the station.

I believe this is the first episode to pair-off Dukat and Garak? Comedy gold that I was glad TPTB were wise enough to revisit on multiple occasions.
 
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“MERIDIAN”

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Jadzia regretted her decision to rewatch this episode, too...

The good things, first of all—and, contrary to what some might claim, there ARE good things. I’d totally forgotten that Jonathan Frakes directed this one, and he does his trademark slap-bang job; so, at the very least, the episode is visually impressive. It’s always refreshing to get some all-too rare location work...and I half expected Lwaxana Troi and Mr Homm to appear with a picnic at the lake (I’m pretty sure this is the exact spot they filmed Betazed in “Ménage a Troi”). Dennis McCarthy’s score is actually utterly lovely and sweetly melodic and the village set and lighting is nice. Terry Farrell is also charming as heck and does her best with terribly substandard material. Oh, and there’s a simply lovely scene between Dax and Sisko as she prepares to leave that I genuinely find affecting, thanks to the strong, heartfelt performances of Brooks and Farrell, who really sell their characters’ bond.

The sub-plot is fairly entertaining, even if a little awkward in this more socially aware, post-#Metoo age. TNG had previously hinted that holodecks could possibly used for less than, um, pure motives (step forward Reginald Barclay and Geordi LaForge!). Given that prostitution is the world’s oldest profession, it only stands to reason that there would be quite bit of holographic...shenanigans going on. The plot also feels strangely timely, with the rise of AI and deep fakes making it possible to make people appear to do things they would never do. Of course, this is all played for laughs, and even though on rewatching I found it just a tad creepy, I still let out a laugh when I saw Quark’s head superimposed on Kira’s body. Jeffrey Combs makes his first of many many appearances, but is strangely forgettable as...crap, I can’t even remember the dude’s name, and I’m not about to look it up. That maybe says it all. But what I did enjoy was seeing Odo and Kira team up and the delightful scene where Kira pretends to be Odo’s lover, leaving the Constable uncharacteristically speechless.

The rest of the episode? I won’t lie, it’s not good. It feels like a particularly “meh” discarded TNG plot, with Dax inheriting what would have doubtlessly been Troi’s role; as she did have a tendency to hook up with bland and unappealing men just because the plot warranted it. Sadly, this utterly fails as a romance for many reasons. Firstly, Brett Cullen is just dull as Deral—nowhere near Vedek Boreil levels of zombie-bland, but a pretty face alone really ain’t enough if you lack the charisma and personality to back it up. It’s never really clear what Jadzia sees in him and the chemistry is non-existent. Their courtship, however, is laid on pretty thick and comes complete with one of the unsexiest “sexy lines” of all time: “let’s go count each other spots”. Ew. It wouldn’t have been so bad had the line not been repeated at least twice. Why Jadzia is suddenly acting like a love-struck teenager and willing to throw away her life, career and friends to hop into another dimension for sixty years with a bloke she just met...well, that’s just anyone’s guess. It’s completely out of character and felt wholly artificial.

There is an esoteric something about the concept I like, and a Brigadoon type plot had potential, but it’s just badly executed. It bugged me that Sisko is exploring the Gamma Quadrant for no discernible reason (don’t they have jobs on the station?) in spite of the Dominion threat. It bugged me that, yet again, we get a planet where the only inhabitants fit in a small village because that’s all the episodic budget and scope for world-building permits. I do maintain this episode isn’t QUITE as dreadful as some claim, because there are some nice elements, as listed above, but as a romance it’s a total failure and as an episode of DS9 it’s also a failure because it tells us nothing about the characters, who are simply there to service a feeble, pointless plot. Rating: 3
 
Thank you for starting with the good points! Glad Jeffrey Combs recovered from the fairly one-dimensional role he had here to do more interesting work later on!
 
Excellent points about "Meridian" - reminded me a bit of "Sub Rosa" when Crusher decides to leave and be with Ronin, only to have her mind quickly changed. Loved Kira's holosuite joke on Tiron and Quark. It's true that Brett Cullen was not dynamic and the romance not very convincing. Seems like Dax and Deral could have just found another world to live on - ?

DS9 is the series I admired the most --it's a pleasure to read these reviews.
 
Tiron was his name, Jeffrey Combs' character. Yes, he was a little one-dimensional, but Combs was still a joy to watch. He was memorable enough for LeVar Burton AND Rene Auberjonois to have him come on as Weyoun and Brunt.

The Dax story was terrible, but I agree it's more about the execution than the idea itself. I think the root of the problem was making it a love story, because 'Romance of the Week' is always an uphill battle in the franchise, but especially on DS9 where the premise of the series is not conducive to just a singular romance encounter.

I disagree about the believability of it being a small village in this case, though. They said they were a small crew to begin with, and they can only procreate while corporeal, and the time they stay corporeal is less and less each time the planet shifts.

Like I said, the idea behind the episode is cool, but it just sucked otherwise. A few tweaks would have made it a lot better.

I still contend this episode is at the bottom of season 3, and bottom half dozen of the series. Truthfully, I feel "PROFIT AND LACE" and "THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOAK" are the only ones worse than "MERIDIAN". But you did point out some good things, like Frakes directing.
 
Terry Farrell is also charming as heck and does her best with terribly substandard material.
She definitely tried to sell the romance. Unfortunately, her love interest wasn't interesting and she hadn't yet developed the chops.

At least the episode wasn't Precious Cargo.
 
Oh, no. No, no, no. "THESE ARE THE VOYAGES...", my friend. That was a travesty. At least "DEAR DOCTOR" had a dilemma and something to talk about.

Frankly, I always liked that episode. Phlox's journal to his friend was a nice touch.
 
Oh, no. No, no, no. "THESE ARE THE VOYAGES...", my friend. That was a travesty. At least "DEAR DOCTOR" had a dilemma and something to talk about.

Frankly, I always liked that episode. Phlox's journal to his friend was a nice touch.

I prefer my Star Trek protagonists to not be genocidal monsters...and for my Star Trek doctors to know how evolution works. I know the second one is a lot to ask from the franchise that gave us Threshold, but that's just how I feel. At least no one let an entire sentient race die out in TATV. Besides, I adhere to the "Section 31 false history" explanation put forth in the Enterprise novels anyway, so that takes a lot of the bite out of it.
 
No, Precious Cargo is objectively the nadir of the franchise. Of course, it has the misogyny to match the racism or ickiness of many if the worst episodes, but the actors clearly gave up early. They didn't even have spots to count.
 
Not only was there not much chemistry between Dax and Deral, but it was way too fast. Dax is supposed to be 300 years old with all that persective about relationships that worked or didn't. Throwing your life away for one man you've known less than a week is more of a 17 year old mistake. (No offense intended to present or former 17 year olds who'd never do such a thing.)

And the one thing that a joined trill has to do above all is make sure the symbiont will be safe to join again when she dies. But with Deral there would be no other hosts if something happened to Jadzia. They were breaking strongly established character in order to give us a love story that wasn't very convincing anyway and couldn't follow through to its conclusion.
 
And the one thing that a joined trill has to do above all is make sure the symbiont will be safe to join again when she dies.
I think that there is, to some extent, a natural dichotomy built into the concept of the Trill. They might have more wisdom, but being accustomed to transferring bodies, they might also be more reckless. It might be up to the host, more fragile, to provide caution and restraint.
 
That's an interesting thought.

It does make one wonder... if it's that important to keep the symbiont aluve at all costs, why are they allowed to join Starfleet or other space organizations where they can get blown up by a warp core breach or torn to shreds by an anomaly?
 
That's an interesting thought.

It does make one wonder... if it's that important to keep the symbiont aluve at all costs, why are they allowed to join Starfleet or other space organizations where they can get blown up by a warp core breach or torn to shreds by an anomaly?

That is a good question. I note we haven't seen any trills in red shirts :)
 
We might have it backwards. It could be the hosts that are reckless and the symbiotes that are cautious.

It could very well be that since they know their personalities will live as long as the symbiote, a sort of immortality, they may have a devil may care attitude about dangers. "I'm going to live basically forever, so why not go crazy?"

The symbiote, being so tiny and pretty fragile, might feel the opposite. It's essentially just a conduit for all those previous hosts. It can easily get its voice lost among the many, particularly if it has had double digit amount of hosts.

I still maintain that it's the hosts that overpower the symbiote more than the other way around.
 
RHW states that they settled on the symbiote having lifetimes of appetites. That doesn't mean that the host can't be the one who goes out of control, but it would make sense that the host is the one who is screened for their discipline and accomplishments.
 
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