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My DS9 Rewatch Odyssey

I think you misread what I said, Farscape. I mean the Founders show clear disdain toward the Vorta and Jem’Hadar and don’t have much time for them aside from their utilitarian purpose. They’re pretty racist against all solids and I can’t see them wanting said solids milling about their rock, much less taking prisoners there. It seems much more realistic that they’d do their mindfucking aboard a Jem’Hadar ship.
 
Ah, I got you.

Yes, they had a lot of disdain for both races, but they created both species.

At the very least, the crew being there was a nice way to symbolize what was going on.

The Great Link for Odo, the Female Changeling, and all other Founders. The experiment, Sisko, Dax, O'Brien, Bashir, and T'Rul all linked together in a program.

Another thing... given how close to their homeworld they caught them, the Founders may simply have wanted to see the results of the experiment themselves.
 
The Founders were totally confident about their ability to defend their home planet. Just because we didn't see them doesn't mean there weren't fleets of Jem Hadar in various places around their home system. The DS9 regulars got there only as prisoners. The Obsidian Order/Tal Shiar joint mission got there because they were being led into a trap. The Defiant with Odo aboard got there because the Founders wanted him there to be judged, and in the finale they wanted Odo there to join the link and allowed Kira to go with him to say goodbye (and take the runabout back). And they have the ability pack up and leave quickly if their location becomes known by their enemies.
 
Foundation is always a touchstone with regard to space opera, but after reading these summaries and commentaries on The Search I and II, I realize just how on the nose the reference is. The search for the Founders very much resembles the search for the Second Foundation.
 
Foundation is always a touchstone with regard to space opera, but after reading these summaries and commentaries on The Search I and II, I realize just how on the nose the reference is. The search for the Founders very much resembles the search for the Second Foundation.

They are even both at other end of the galaxy!
 
I think you misread what I said, Farscape. I mean the Founders show clear disdain toward the Vorta and Jem’Hadar and don’t have much time for them aside from their utilitarian purpose. They’re pretty racist against all solids and I can’t see them wanting said solids milling about their rock, much less taking prisoners there. It seems much more realistic that they’d do their mindfucking aboard a Jem’Hadar ship.
What was the Jem'hadar's mission? If we are just trying to justify, by whatever means possible, bringing the Defiant and the crew to theFounders' homeworld, it would be because returning Odo would take precedence. As much as the Founders are shown to be repugnantly racist, even to their own creations, they seem to go out of their way to protect and cater to Odo. And by that point,I'm sure that they were starting to pack up for the new homeworld.
 
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“THE HOUSE OF QUARK”

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Jadzia was no doubt happy that Klingon wedding fashion had improved by the sixth season.

It seems like a long time since DS9 has truly let its hair down, which makes “The House of Quark” a wonderfully refreshing change of pace following all the heavy Dominion and Maquis storylines of late. It’s an amiable, funny and thoroughly entertaining romp featuring some of the best use of Quark since the series began. It almost feels like a reassurance to the show’s core fans that, in spite of all the Big Changes (TM), the series has retained its heart and all its quirky charm.

I must confess, I was never a huge fan of Berman Klingons, who, for me, had already outstayed their welcome by the end of TNG’s run. It came as little surprise, however, that incoming writer Ron Moore didn’t wait long before incorporating his favourite warrior race—but the results are far more fun than I could have imagined. The heart of this story is a delicious cultural clash between two of Trek’s most diametrically opposed species: the Klingons and the Ferengi. The idea of Quark as the head of a Klingon house is inspired, and there are some wonderful moments of comedy sprinkled throughout. His bamboozling a hall full of Klingons with all his “filthy ledgers” is particularly hilarious and I loved the way the episode affectionately pokes fun at both species and their stereotypical proclivities. That said, perhaps most importantly, the humour works comes naturally from the characters rather than from ridiculing them. Indeed, I loved how the episodes plays up to Quark’s own particular set of strengths and uses them as a means of resolving the plot. The performances all round are superb; from the ever reliable Armin Shimmerman, to the brilliant Mary Kay Adams, who immediately crafts one of the most likeable and nuanced Klingons we’ve yet encountered. Trek alumni Joseph Ruskin shines as Grilka’s advisor Tumek (and what a marvellous voice he has!) and it’s great to see the return of Robert O’Reilly as everyone’s favourite bug-eyed Chancellor.

An unrelated sub-plot features Keiko at a time of personal crisis following the closing of the station school. It’s a nice, engaging little character piece and, if I recall correctly, will unfortunately be one of the last times the writers actually treat Keiko as more a character in her own right rather than a plot device or function. I love that it involved no bickering whatsoever we instead get to see husband and wife at their best, with O’Brien desperate to support his wife and see her happy. Nice stuff, and both Colm Meaney and Rosalind Chao are great and their natural chemistry is always enjoyable. All in all, an entertaining and amiable episode that serves as a nice antidote to the tumult of recent episodes. Rating: 8

These reviews may be a little shorter for a bit. The truth is I’m a cancer patient and everything takes more energy than I would like; even writing a few paragraphs of text uses energy that I really need for more important things, so I must practice greater succinctness!
 
Sorry to hear that you're struggling with cancer! I've really been enjoying your reviews, whether or not I agreed with them. :)

I feel like "House of Quark" is an episode I enjoy in the moment but largely forget about two weeks later.
 
"THE HOUSE OF QUARK" is a favorite of mine for different reasons at different times of my life, which is a rare thing for me to say.

When I was younger, I liked the O'Brien story, but I preferred the Quark story because of much of what you said above.

In recent years, and as a married man, I find I prefer the O'Brien story. I still love the Quark one, but O'Brien's quest to simply make his wife happy speaks so much to what kind of man he is. We've always known him to be a good man, but I feel this is one of those things that just cements it in.

I also love the irony that it's Bashir who was the most spot on about what Keiko's trouble was, and his advice was perfect. It was a small moment, but it showed such a tremendous amount of growth from the egotistical youth we saw in the pilot to just 2 years later.

I will always maintain that this marriage was probably THE most realistic relationship the franchise ever did.


Side note, but the important one: ananta, focus on yourself. I love these reviews and your pictures with funny dialogue, but if you need to stop for a bit to gather your strength, then do so. We can always go right back to where you left off, without skipping a beat. Go kick cancer's ass.
 
So sorry to hear about the cancer. My thoughts go out to you, stay strong. Let me also say how much I enjoy your rewatch odyssey. Its the first thing i look for when I come to the boards. Its brought me alot of pleasure. Thank you and best of luck in your battle.
 
These reviews may be a little shorter for a bit. The truth is I’m a cancer patient and everything takes more energy than I would like; even writing a few paragraphs of text uses energy that I really need for more important things, so I must practice greater succinctness!
Please don't feel guilty. You owe us nothing, but you gave us a lot. I would rather that watching the show give you comfort and inspiration than make you feel like you must do work. Please concentrate on your health.
 
Aww, thanks guys, I appreciate the wonderful comments and kind wishes. I just had a slightly bad week, with very little energy. I rested up for a few days and am feeling stronger now. It’s amazing how even little things like texting or messaging can use energy when there’s a bit of deficit. I just wanted to level up as I may not always respond to arguments and comments—it’s not that I’m being arrogant or ignoring people, just that I may be low in energy. I love reading your comments and even disagreements because it often helps me see things in a different light. Thanks again for the words of support, it means a lot. Let’s get back on track...I wonder if this one will be controversial.
 
“EQUILIBRIUM”

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Talk about washing your sins away...

This episode opens with Sisko cooking the senior staff dinner and it’s such a sweet, fun and utterly CHARMING scene that shows how well this cast work together. It feels like a rarity, too, in that we rarely see all these characters together unless it’s during a staff meeting where there’s invariably tension and argument. TNG was great at showing the camaraderie of its crew, so it’s nice to see DS9 playing catch-up in that regard.

Unfortunately, I found the rest of the episode a disappointment. The basic premise is a great one: the notion that Dax has a past incarnation she knew nothing of—and not only that, but a psychopathic killer to boot. This had all the ingredients for a wonderful psychological thriller, but somehow it just doesn’t ignite. I love the idea of a long-forgotten melody being the trigger, and the imagery of masks is a good one, even if I found the hallucinations lacked the visceral punch they needed (the directing feels pedestrian throughout). I actually found my attention wandering a couple of times, and the overall feel is a rather dull, tepid episode that relies altogether too much on talk. There’s a lengthy scene where Sisko and Bashir talk with Joran’s elderly brother and I swear I almost fell asleep; the guy drones on and on and the directing fails to enliven the static exchange.

Even though I find Trill society quite fascinating, this episode doesn’t quite succeed in making me CARE about the consequences of this supposedly devastating revelation. It’s no real surprise that the Trill are covering up the fact that more people are capable of being joined than the official line states, simply because there aren’t enough symbionts to go around. What I find perplexing is that, in most cultures, minorities are not envied—instead, they tend to be denigrated and attacked. People don’t like to feel inferior, so even if someone is objectively their superior in certain regards, there’s a psychological drive to either elevate themselves or tear that other person down. Which makes it odd that Trill society seems to have such mass scale of inferiority and symbiont-envy. Also,I can’t help but wonder how on Earth the first Trill symbiont and host were joined? I mean, who first came up with the rather gross idea of transplanting an underground-dwelling cave worm into their body, just to see what would happen?

Another problem I have with the episode is that it follows the pattern of most previous Jadzia episodes by rendering her unconscious or mute for a significant part of the episode. Perhaps this was done to signify the personal jeopardy, but it sadly means that, once again, she is used less as a character and more of a plot element; which is a disservice to both Jadzia and Terry Farrell. There are certainly some good moments—the opening scene, the Jadzia/Bashir bedtime scene (it’s such a relief find Bashir’s lecherous streak has been ditched) and I also liked the Trill pools, the haunting musical motif and some of the ideas at play (water symbolically represents the emotions and psyche,so the symbolism of Jadzia embracing Joran in the pool is pretty nice). Overall, though, “Equilibrium” feels like a plod, and doesn’t do much justice to what ought to have been a killer premise...if you’ll excuse the pun. Rating: 5
 
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I still find it bizarre, perhaps a reflection of the writers' estimation of Terry Farrell's abilities, that Dax is literally asleep when her fate is being debated. Obviously, there is something to be said about having Sisko, the series lead, and Brooks, the stronger actor, plead for Dax's life. However, it did continue a trend in which Dax tended to lack agency. Stories happen to her, not because of her. By comparison, Kira not only made important decisions and took important stands, by season three, she was well established as a character who took indepent action, driving the stories of many episodes.
 
Yup, there’s definitely a lack of agency in most of these Jadzia episodes. Thinking ahead to the rest of the season, in “Facets” she’s is an almost entirely reactive role while the rest of the cast get to have fun, and in “Meridian”...well, I kind of wish she had been unconscious, as it would have spared us one of Trek’s very worst ‘romances’!
 
I do agree that this episode was a bit of a snooze. One of the best aspects was the beginning.

"Beets are a very misunderstood vegetable."

It's one of the only times I actually disagree with Ben Sisko. "Sorry, sir. They are not misunderstood. Beets are simply not delicious." - Me

The symbolism of the masks was a nice touch, as we get deeper into what is going on, more masks are dropped.

Creepy music, by the way. And speaking of music, did you notice the way Ben looked at Jake when he said he wasn't very good at the keyboard? It seemed like he was going to say, "Because you didn't put any practice into it." He just had that silent 'parent look', and we ALL know what I'm talking.

The attempt at worldbuilding of the Trill was nice, and we did get a lot out of it, but I feel like it didn't have enough... life in it. I don't quite know how else to describe it.
 
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