This is probably the list that is skewed from the others tge most in this thread. STID #2 and FC #11? Care to elaborate?
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He likes STiD and doesn't like First Contact? Woah.
I felt that First Contact was an inconsistent movie that ruined both Picard and the Borg.
Outside of Goldsmith and maybe Woodard, it's a pretty unremarkable film.
It's the same safe and by the numbers Berman Trek as the other three films. It's just a bit better at the packaging. And, like I said, the score is excellent.
The humor was generic and awkward. The action was the same kids in the backyard with their toys. Each of the secondary main cast only rose as far their obligatory role scene could take them. *
And, yeah, Picard doing his best John Matrix impersonation was a lot less Picard-like than anything PineKirk has ever done.
All in all, it's not a bad film, there's just nothing particularly special or stand-out about it. It's mostly fallen off the map and been completely forgotten about by anyone who's not a Trekkie or fluent sci-fi fan. Even TFF has found it's own small little niche in pop culture pablum.
*One of my biggest gripes with the TNG films is how little the lesser cast has to do. Even the TOS lesser cast did more in those films, and they weren't actually an integral part of the series. People say the TNG films are too much like the show, but to me, the thing that defined the series above everything else was its cast.
It's the same safe and by the numbers Berman Trek as the other three films. It's just a bit better at the packaging. And, like I said, the score is excellent.
The humor was generic and awkward. The action was the same kids in the backyard with their toys. Each of the secondary main cast only rose as far their obligatory role scene could take them. *
And, yeah, Picard doing his best John Matrix impersonation was a lot less Picard-like than anything PineKirk has ever done.
All in all, it's not a bad film, there's just nothing particularly special or stand-out about it. It's mostly fallen off the map and been completely forgotten about by anyone who's not a Trekkie or fluent sci-fi fan. Even TFF has found it's own small little niche in pop culture pablum.
*One of my biggest gripes with the TNG films is how little the lesser cast has to do. Even the TOS lesser cast did more in those films, and they weren't actually an integral part of the series. People say the TNG films are too much like the show, but to me, the thing that defined the series above everything else was its cast.
First tier (chronological order): TMP, TWOK
Second tier (chronological order): TSFS, TVH, TUC, STFC, STXI
Third tier (chronological order): INS, STID
Fourth tier (chronological order): STV, GEN, NEM
Second tier (chronological order): TSFS, TVH, TUC, STFC, STXI
Third tier (chronological order): INS, STID
Fourth tier (chronological order): STV, GEN, NEM
I found the film to be too story driven while the characters I loved Kirk, Spock, and McCoy take a back seat to it. I didn't recognized Kirk or Spock in that movie; I'm supposed to be rooting for them but instead I was siding with Will Decker. TMP director's cut in HD were the least of it's issues.
Decker is the hero of the story. You're supposed to side with him. 
Also, that field you're standing in looks amazing. I want to go there.
Also, that field you're standing in looks amazing. I want to go there.
Marin County near San Francisco. It's an amazing place to visit.Decker is the hero of the story. You're supposed to side with him.
Also, that field you're standing in looks amazing. I want to go there.
The only way Into Darkness is better than Star Trek is if you consider ID to be literally a JOKE and the title "Star Trek Into Darkness" a darkly humorous comment on how terrible the movie is. That, and if you're into that kind of humor.
SPIN
I still think Into Darkness is far better than those TNG films; I had a great time watching the movie, it had issues but I didn't leave the theater hating the film. The main problem with TNG for me were I never understood Picard's motivations in those films, definitely not the Picard I remembered on the TV series.
You asked people to rank the movies. Asking for an elaboration, as Yanks has, is not an unreasonable request.
However, if you, as the thread-starter, intended to belittle or mock any rankings which are not in accordance with your own, then perhaps you ought to have been more up-front about that in your opening post.
People are going to have different ideas about stuff. Let them. If you ask politely—as if you're sincerely interested in learning about their reasoning—they may even explain why.
If you're not interested, why make a thread like this in the first place?
I'm a fan of big sky. And Green. Here in New Mexico we have a lot of big sky, but not a lot of green.
That said, I still hate driving through Iowa.
01) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
02) Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
03) Star Trek: First Contact
04) Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
05) Star Trek (2009)
06) Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
07) Star Trek Into Darkness
08) Star Trek: The Motion Picture
09) Star Trek: Generations
10) Star Trek: Insurrection
11) Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
12) Star Trek: Nemesis
02) Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
03) Star Trek: First Contact
04) Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
05) Star Trek (2009)
06) Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
07) Star Trek Into Darkness
08) Star Trek: The Motion Picture
09) Star Trek: Generations
10) Star Trek: Insurrection
11) Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
12) Star Trek: Nemesis
First, I certainly AM interested in others sharing their opinions on this topic, as evidenced by the active role I have played in this thread. Second, could you please clarify what exactly I did that prompted your post above? Was it that I expressed my opinion in the form of a joke? As you've no doubt noted, I am new here, so please tell me if doing so is not allowed. Third, aside from the joke, I defy you to cite one example in this thread where I've been anything less than polite.
SPIN
Your replies questioning other people's rankings have come off a tad harsh, intentionally or not, and you've been a bit demanding. You're not in trouble, he's just saying to tone it down a little.
I find one to be more entertaining than the other. Nothing more, nothing less.
I rank entertainment based on how much it entertains me.
That deserves a Keanu Whoa.
It does, and yet it also makes perfect sense.
SD content can look pretty good on any screen at the right distance.
I'm going through the DS9 DVDs on a 38" LCD TV, upscaled through my PS3, and yes, when you're sitting 5-6 feet away from the screen like you would for HD content, it looks blurry and shoddy, but when you're sitting 15+ feet away, you hardly notice a difference (unless you're being really anal about it).
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