Moviemongers Don't Care about Comic Books: My View

[Captain Craig]

Loved the Valiant material.

Dark Horse did a mini revivial about 1.5yrs ago with Solar, Turok, Magnus and Samson(ok not a Valiant character but cool).

The real non-licensened Valiant is making a comeback under new ownership. X-O Man o War came out two weeks ago and Bloodshot is next. Is there enough interest for a Valiant thread? I'd thought about it.

 

[Silvercrest]

I sincerely doubt that the OP thinks that Reed Richards was in his fifties in 1976, which is about what he would have been in order to have served in World War 2.

Actually, I think he was. One of the very first FF comics I read was from right around that time, where Reed was losing his powers "due to middle age."

These days, they have a pill for that.

Given Reed's power set, that's a pill he'd never need.

To the contrary: He needed it, all right, and it didn't exist in the 1970s. Now it can be told! Reed had to INVENT that pill in order to get his powers back.

I love how a thread that started with an incoherant rant has evolved into an actual discussiuon about comics!

TrekBBS: There's no crazy thread we can't turn to gold and no golden thread we can't turn crazy.

In the meantime, the OP has never shown up again. What a mendicant.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Sure, there was some good stuff in the 90s. Early Valiant was good, the 2099 books were good, Guardians of the Galaxy, some other stuff that I can't remember now. There's always some good stuff. But the good stuff was just scattered among the debris.

 

[RoJoHen]

In the meantime, the OP has never shown up again. What a mendicant.

That's fairly typical of him, actually.

 

[Professor Zoom]

But the good stuff was just scattered among the debris.

Pretty much like always.

 

[Captain Qwert Jr]

But the good stuff was just scattered among the debris.

Pretty much like always.

The thing is, in the 90s, there was a gigantic amount of debris due to everyone trying to milk the speculators, and it was very bad. So very, very bad.

Below is not a spoiler. I just used the code to protect anyone over 80, under 9, and pregnant women who may happen to glance this way.

Spoiler: DR FATE...really

 

[sojourner]

^Now that's the Edgy and Hip Dr. Fate I've been dying to read about!

 

[RJDiogenes]

That's exactly it. In other decades, there was not only quality and innovation and evolution of style, but even the bad stuff could be appreciated in some way because of the intent, talent and artistry of the people involved. Even a lot of the worst stuff could be appreciated on a so-bad-it's-good level. But the 90s (and the 00s) just produced a whole lot of garbage that is simply painful and embarrassing to look at, and pretty much impossible to read.

 

[Silent_Bob]

^Now that's the Edgy and Hip Dr. Fate I've been dying to read about!

Needs more pouches.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Titles like Fate (1994), Manhunter (1994), and Extreme Justice (1995) are the most, well, extreme examples of DC trying to cash in on the Image craze in the mid-1990s, but those books aren't representative of DC's overall output in the 1990s.

 

[The Lensman]

I can't believe no mention of this comic has appeared yet:

Planetary is in my "top five" comics list, right behind Starman.

And since I love retro-futurism, this mini-series by Motter and Lark is also in my top five.

It's got a "dirty and used Metropolis", video phones, flying cars, a large cast of eccentric characters, nods to classic sci-fi of the 20's, 30's, 40's, and 50's, nods to classic movies, light hearted whimsical noir, and more pun based names for people and places than you can shake a stick at.

It's from the creator of the similarly themed "Mr. X" series of the 80's. He also did a follow up series to Terminal City and both are now collected in the recently released "Compleat Terminal City".

There's also a spin-off set in a third city called "Electropolis" in which he set all the cities in the same world and fairly close, allowing for characters to bleed over. I believe there's also a "tri-city" story coming up in the next year or so.

Also, this was a pretty awesome book if you like fantastical worlds, maps and explorers and a fresh style of art.

It was the first in a planned trilogy, but only this first series has been done, and haven't heard anything about the second or third beyond their titles.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Agree with you on Planetary.

Never heard of Terminal City. Sounds like it's right up my alley.

 

[Ian Keldon]

I don't think the 90s get enough respect. There were a lot of really good books and runs in the 90s and early 00s. I list some of them earlier.

I agree. Starman anyone?

Never really got into Starman.

I don't think the 90s get enough respect. There were a lot of really good books and runs in the 90s and early 00s. I list some of them earlier.

I agree. Starman anyone?

Mark Waid's run on Flash?
Infinity Gauntlet?
Clone Saga(believe it or not many actually like it, me included)

The 90's gets a harsher rap in some circles for some reason.

Because that's when the idiots in the front office tanked the industry with the speculator bubble. People tend to blame the creative staff for foil covers, dozens of variants, etc, when those decisions were made at the corporate, not the writer/artist level.

And yeah, Clone Saga was good...it just went on about a year too long!

I jumped into Spider-Man big time with the then new "Ben Riley" Spider title...and jumped right back out again when they cancelled it.

They had the perfect solution to the whole married/unmarried Spidey issue right there: one set of titles covering Peter/MJ/Baby May and the other covering Ben Riley.

I jumped into comics big in the early-mid 90s and don't regret it to this day. I was reading at least 5-7 titles from BOTH of the Big Two, and at my apex was probably reading as many as 8-9 from each.

Can't afford it now, between no job and through the roof prices. Never mind that the creative directions have completely been taken over by the "bean counters" again.

 

[captcalhoun]

best version of the Clone Saga is the Ultimate one.

 

[the G-man]

Titles like Fate (1994), Manhunter (1994), and Extreme Justice (1995) are the most, well, extreme examples of DC trying to cash in on the Image craze in the mid-1990s....

I don't know. Are you sure that the New 52 isn't the most extreme example of DC trying to cash in on the Image craze of the mid-1990s?

 

[Vanyel]

I just have to say I loved the art work of George Perez, especially his initial run on The New Teen Titans. And Wendy Peni's work in Elfquest was also masterful. Both post 1976.