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Nostalgia sells better than new content though. Look at how many movies are part of an existing "cinematic universe," reboots, or based upon a comic book or video game these days.

Yup. So once it all crashes down, we'll have the exact opposite of that for a little while, during the lull... until the cycle repeats itself again.
 
Nostalgia sells better than new content though. Look at how many movies are part of an existing "cinematic universe," reboots, or based upon a comic book or video game these days.

Yep. It's amazing that the likes of Halloween, Terminator, Alien, Predator from the 70s/80s are still producing new instalments but then they come from an era when studios were prepared to take a risk on a new concept. These days its easier to take an existing franchise and churn out sequels or reboot it. Its hard to imagine an original idea not only being green lit today but still being a thriving franchise decades from now.
 
Yep. It's amazing that the likes of Halloween, Terminator, Alien, Predator from the 70s/80s are still producing new instalments but then they come from an era when studios were prepared to take a risk on a new concept. These days its easier to take an existing franchise and churn out sequels or reboot it. Its hard to imagine an original idea not only being green lit today but still being a thriving franchise decades from now.
I think that's why book sales are being watched so closely nowadays, as a way to see what works before taking the risk on production. It's a lame approach of wait & see, but that trend will probably continue.
 
Yep. It's amazing that the likes of Halloween, Terminator, Alien, Predator from the 70s/80s are still producing new instalments but then they come from an era when studios were prepared to take a risk on a new concept. These days its easier to take an existing franchise and churn out sequels or reboot it. Its hard to imagine an original idea not only being green lit today but still being a thriving franchise decades from now.

In the last 20 years, only twice have there been top-grossing movies not based upon existing IP - Avatar and Frozen.

In general it only seems like studios experiment with new IP these days for children's movies. Which makes sense, given you can't tap into the nostalgia factor for children.
 
In the last 20 years, only twice have there been top-grossing movies not based upon existing IP - Avatar and Frozen.

In general it only seems like studios experiment with new IP these days for children's movies. Which makes sense, given you can't tap into the nostalgia factor for children.

It's because budgets have become too big for their own good. If they made more low-budget movies where the occasional misfire would be okay because it wouldn't be catastrophic to the studio, we'd see a lot more originals and a lot more variety.

And then there's PG-13. I hate PG-13 now. It's basically the rating used for anything that wants to gain the largest possible audience. They want to appeal to everyone, so everyone goes to see, so the ginormous costs put into these films are covered. The other thing I hate about PG-13 is that it's usually either an artificially amped-up PG-rated movie or it's an R-rated movie with all the guts cut out of it (figuratively and literally), making it look more ridiculous. If they make movies with lower budgets, you'll have more PG movies and more R movies, because studios will have more incentive to make them again, instead of constantly settling for PG-13.
 
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Earlier in DSC I expressed displeasure that it was deliberately connecting to TOS instead of a crew having adventures simply in pre-TOS times. People quoted at me the showrunners saying they deliberately wanted to explore TOS things. So nostalgia has been there from the get go, else we would have had some rando crew doing things in 2254. Which I woulda been fine with.

Ive never cared that much for Pike asa charachter, it's just that such a show sounds better than DSC to me.
 
Everything is Nostalgia! Who are the people who bought Fantastic 4, Hulk, and Spiderman comics? We did! Who invented rules as we went along for D&D? We did! Game of Thrones and Marvel are our childhood fantasies come to life in our own lifetime! Boomers got this thing going, GenXers had their grunge and hiphop and Transformers or whatever. None of it lasted. All of this modern media is heavy Boomercentric.

As for Star Trek, we made that popular too and while I understand TNG and the tea sipping gentleman captain with the kids on board appealed to our kids, it was because they watched us watching it as we tried to understand what happened to our beloved TOS. Surely TNG wasn't it. Nor Voyager.

No, I signed on because I was told Discovery was 10 years pre Kirk. I admit, Season one of Discovery was jarring but I adapted to the story telling knowing this was leading in the direction promised.

You're darn right I want to see The Pike Chronicles! That's what I signed up for. That's what I was promised! And as Discovery warps into the future with its battle damaged outdated technology perhaps it will become a refined Voyager. I'll watch that on Thursdays and get my nostalgic Pike Chronicles on Sunday, after 60 minutes. Damn kids!

Those of us that signed up for what we expect to be a TOS make over get ours too. I don't think the makers are stupid. They want to grow, expand, reach a new audience. But they also want me. They want ALL of us!
 
Everything is Nostalgia! Who are the people who bought Fantastic 4, Hulk, and Spiderman comics? We did! Who invented rules as we went along for D&D? We did! Game of Thrones and Marvel are our childhood fantasies come to life in our own lifetime! Boomers got this thing going, GenXers had their grunge and hiphop and Transformers or whatever. None of it lasted. All of this modern media is heavy Boomercentric.

As for Star Trek, we made that popular too and while I understand TNG and the tea sipping gentleman captain with the kids on board appealed to our kids, it was because they watched us watching it as we tried to understand what happened to our beloved TOS. Surely TNG wasn't it. Nor Voyager.

No, I signed on because I was told Discovery was 10 years pre Kirk. I admit, Season one of Discovery was jarring but I adapted to the story telling knowing this was leading in the direction promised.

You're darn right I want to see The Pike Chronicles! That's what I signed up for. That's what I was promised! And as Discovery warps into the future with its battle damaged outdated technology perhaps it will become a refined Voyager. I'll watch that on Thursdays and get my nostalgic Pike Chronicles on Sunday, after 60 minutes. Damn kids!

Those of us that signed up for what we expect to be a TOS make over get ours too. I don't think the makers are stupid. They want to grow, expand, reach a new audience. But they also want me. They want ALL of us!

There's your title right there : "Star Trek, The Pike Chronicles"
 
I want: Pike kills canon fanatics with blue phaser beams...........
And I would enjoy most anything...as long as they do not make it like the 80's or 90's in any way....
I like that it feels modern....what else should it be?? Hoist the sails you stinkin' land lubbers.....fire the front load phaser guns....get that space seagull out of my way!
Where is me compass first officer?? Take the wheel you.... you onelegged drunk sailor!
 
They could accurately call the entire franchise that, most certainly including STD.

It is funny that there are some folks all of a sudden concerned with nostalgia that have watched Discovery for the past two years without complaint.
 
It is funny that there are some folks all of a sudden concerned with nostalgia that have watched Discovery for the past two years without complaint.

I think there's a difference between being TOS-adjacent and jumping head-first into the pool.
 
Think they're making the franchise more anthological now. A far future show, a Picard show, an animated show, a spy-ee show etc. Maybe there's room for a nostalgia show too.
 
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