I dunno, what some people would characterize as Bariel's boringness I would call 'serenity'. He seemed like a True Believer who actually had found peace through his religion...but that doesn't necessarily make for fun TV watching. And I agree that in regard to his relationship with Kira, it rather begs the question of how much it can really evolve. It might have been interesting to see Kira grow bored of Bariel's serenity though; perhaps Winn implements some sort of radical change (as per "Accession"), and Bariel's calmly accepting of it while Kira's increasingly upset by it, and by Bariel's unwillingness to take an active stand.
Most terrible character in DS9?
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"I'll never forget the first time I saw you, the day you came to the station. You had such a serenity about you. I thought you had all the answers. It really got on my nerves for a while. But then I got to know you and I realised you were just as confused as the rest of us. You just accepted your confusion better than anyone I've ever known. That's when I realised I loved you."
- Kira's last words to Bareil
- Kira's last words to Bareil
Worst character: the Breen, all of them, as a species. No unique design (like the Vulcan ears or Klingon foreheads), no species's big motivation (like profit for Ferengis), no backstory or arc, no powers, habilities or tech. And not even spoken lines (untranslated gibberish does not count) or faces without armor.
In two words: nameless mooks. The only reason they were there was to justify the Cardassians turning against the Dominion...
In two words: nameless mooks. The only reason they were there was to justify the Cardassians turning against the Dominion...
Yep. Only thing I can think of is they didn't want to use an existing alien race for some reason and didn't feel there would be enough time in Season 7 to develop a new one properly. So we got the Breen, with about as much backstory as the army of North Koreans employed by the arch-villain in a Bond film.
I agree with Tosk. The mysterious nature of them made them more interesting.
When Kira was disguised as a Breen, she should have freed someone from Carbonite.
I have to disagree here.
I find them exciting. Mostly because we don't know much about them, we don't even know how they look behind their masks or whatever they have.
A mystery does not work that way, it's not just an unfinished design. The answer to the mystery must be in-story relevant, the characters have to be actively trying to either answer it (if it's some else's mystery) or conceal it (if it's their own mystery), we must have some partial answers along the way leaving us wanting to know more, and ideally have an answer at some point.
Even if the final answer may be disappointing to some, the Burn from Discovery is a better Star Trek example of a mystery.
Even if the final answer may be disappointing to some, the Burn from Discovery is a better Star Trek example of a mystery.
A mystery story maybe, but something can be and remain a mystery that is not something to be discovered or worked out nor a question waiting to be answered.
An enigma, as DonIago said.
And there should still be some mysteries in STAR TREK. Not everything should be explained because there will always be mysteries left to be solved.
For example, one of the reasons why I love VOY's "PERSISTENCE OF VISION" (besides it having a creepy mood) is because the entire situation ends on a mystery. We have no idea what the motivations of the Botha were, or if what happened was even real.
As smart and advanced as we may get in the 24th century, there's no way we can explain everything. And that's a good thing... keeps the hunger for answers going.
For example, one of the reasons why I love VOY's "PERSISTENCE OF VISION" (besides it having a creepy mood) is because the entire situation ends on a mystery. We have no idea what the motivations of the Botha were, or if what happened was even real.
As smart and advanced as we may get in the 24th century, there's no way we can explain everything. And that's a good thing... keeps the hunger for answers going.
She's a cult leader... easy to dislike those, especially these days.Alixus in "Paradise" was a very bad character.
I really hated her...so maybe that's good character writing, I'm not sure
Oh dear, I almost forgot about her.Alixus in "Paradise" was a very bad character.
I really hated her...so maybe that's good character writing, I'm not sure
Yes, she was really disgusting. I remember that I was disappointed that she wasn't killed off and I was also disappointed that some of the people there actually wanted to stay in that "Khmer Rouge" society which she had created.
I loathed her even more than the Female Founder.
But both of them were great villains!
She reminded me of Janeway at her most obsessive.
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