Most terrible character in DS9?
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Keiko isn't the best character in DS9, but she's all right. Certainly not in Ishka's league.
Terrible Character as in "Horrible Person"? Darheel, Dukat, Sloan, Winn, and the Female Changeling.
Terrible Character as in "they get on my nerves"? Season 1 Bashir.
Terrible Character as in "they get on my nerves"? Season 1 Bashir.
The "Darheel" we saw in Duet was actually Aamin Marritza being obnoxious because he wanted to be executed for Darheel's crimes and in that way create something which would change Cardassia.
But as Darheel, he was obnoxious.
"And the verdict was always the same! Guilty!"
And Sloane was a bit creepy. But interesting in the same way. Sad that they killed him off, I would have liked to see more of him in possible future series in the 24th century.
I agree on Dukat, Winn, and the Female Changeling. They were obnoxious and being so, they were great villains.
As for Bashir, I never found him that terrible.
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In deference to @Lynx (who found ways to restore Kes, Gowron, and probably others), I have the perfect solution for the Sloan problem.
Following the S7 finale, Section 31 reveals that they salvaged enough of the wreckage of the Vorta cloning facilities to rebuild them. In addition to a still-smarmy but Federation allied Weyoun 9, they also reveal Sloan 2. Both continue to turn up periodically throughout DS9 Season 8. Along with Sisko's return, Bashir/Ezri's quick and painless end, and Garak and Bashir supplanting Miles and Bashir as Station Besties. And maybe just enough Xena-style innuendo to keep the Garashir shippers foaming at the mouth.
To return to subject, I also agree with Lynx that the Gowron of the last few episodes was appalling. He was a politician, he was so dumb it didn't occur to him that Martok was utterly opposed to being Chancellor, and he was willing to risk the Empire to cling to power.
Following the S7 finale, Section 31 reveals that they salvaged enough of the wreckage of the Vorta cloning facilities to rebuild them. In addition to a still-smarmy but Federation allied Weyoun 9, they also reveal Sloan 2. Both continue to turn up periodically throughout DS9 Season 8. Along with Sisko's return, Bashir/Ezri's quick and painless end, and Garak and Bashir supplanting Miles and Bashir as Station Besties. And maybe just enough Xena-style innuendo to keep the Garashir shippers foaming at the mouth.
To return to subject, I also agree with Lynx that the Gowron of the last few episodes was appalling. He was a politician, he was so dumb it didn't occur to him that Martok was utterly opposed to being Chancellor, and he was willing to risk the Empire to cling to power.
But he seemed like an honorable Klingon warrior, not a man who would destroy the empire for selfish reasons.
Seemed pretty pissy for Worf as well, to challenge Gowron, beat him, and then drop the messy results of his actions in Martok's lap.
Did he? Per Memory Alpha:
-Suspected of poisoning K'mpec (never proven; could have been Duras)
-Ordered all official accounts of the Klingon Civil War omit mention of the Federations' involvement while emphasizing his own actions.
-Without informing his ostensible Federation allies, potentially sent Klingon Intelligence agents to DS9 to spy on Romulans.
-Withdrew from the Khitomer accords in part because he felt the Federation was soft and weak, never mind that he never would have become chancellor without Federation support (and might have been killed).
-Declared victory over the Cardassians even though he failed to take Cardassia Prime, and may have done so to avoid assassination attempts.
-Was reluctant to assist in the retaking of DS9.
He seems less honorable than he does politically minded.
-Suspected of poisoning K'mpec (never proven; could have been Duras)
-Ordered all official accounts of the Klingon Civil War omit mention of the Federations' involvement while emphasizing his own actions.
-Without informing his ostensible Federation allies, potentially sent Klingon Intelligence agents to DS9 to spy on Romulans.
-Withdrew from the Khitomer accords in part because he felt the Federation was soft and weak, never mind that he never would have become chancellor without Federation support (and might have been killed).
-Declared victory over the Cardassians even though he failed to take Cardassia Prime, and may have done so to avoid assassination attempts.
-Was reluctant to assist in the retaking of DS9.
He seems less honorable than he does politically minded.
It also seems inconsistent with that they said in "Soldiers of the Empire", that a commander can only be challenged by their immediate subordinate. Martok should have challenged Gowron, not Worf.
I also never mindes him, but I understand why some people do.v
There is precedent on a random person challenging a Chancellor.
In "Redemption II", one Klingon thought the Duras sisters 'had better leaders'. Gowron had no problem fighting him, and Kurn said it was a matter of honor. Worf stopped the guy, only to be killed by Gowron. (Which, frankly, was dishonorable of Gowron. But Worf also should NOT have interfered.)
Jadzia's telling about challenging a direct superior might be only within a ship's hierarchy itself. (We do see this in TNG's "A Matter Of Honor" when Klag, who was directly under Riker, challenged him. So "SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE" is consistent with that episode.)
In "Redemption II", one Klingon thought the Duras sisters 'had better leaders'. Gowron had no problem fighting him, and Kurn said it was a matter of honor. Worf stopped the guy, only to be killed by Gowron. (Which, frankly, was dishonorable of Gowron. But Worf also should NOT have interfered.)
Jadzia's telling about challenging a direct superior might be only within a ship's hierarchy itself. (We do see this in TNG's "A Matter Of Honor" when Klag, who was directly under Riker, challenged him. So "SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE" is consistent with that episode.)
Interesting solution to the "Sloan case". It would be nice to have him back in some future series or movie. A character too good to be wasted.
However, i can live without the Garashir thing since it never really happened, other than in some people's wishes.
No, but he was a great character and worth better that just to be killed off.
That's right! It was very "out of character" for Gowron, just as if they just wanted to create a reason for killing him off which I think was a waste of a great character.
No wonder that the "Cardassian agent solution" came up for me as soon as I had watched that episode.
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Consider that the population of Ferenginar was 52% female... that's literally billions of poorly educated and eminently exploitable workers, AND billions of potential customers. Ferenginar's female population was a bottomless resource that no one touched (you think no one else ever made the "pockets" argument before?) Given that Ferengi care everything for profit and nothing for conventional law, that means that their anti-female prejudice was incredibly powerful and deep-rooted. You just don't overcome something like that overnight. And you certainly don't overcome it alone.
I doubt that was as much of a consideration as the fact that it opened up far more dramatic possibilities for Winn to become Kai than it did for Bariel.
It would have been interesting to see a follow up story. If it were realistic it'd turn out that headlines were just that, headlines... and the changes were slow or hard to take hold.
Rom would have been deposed within hours by someone who was properly cunning too.
But DS9 didn't want to go deep into social commentary on this one, just a high level story.
Possibly, although Winn became Kai about a half season before Bareil got the chop. From what I recall, the writers admitted they weren’t happy with the character and his relationship with Kira didn’t have anywhere much to go (and bless, Nana really had to do the heavy lifting in any scenes between the two).
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