First, the D7:
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I don't know. The four references I downloaded show it there, even though they disagree on other points.
Two others I'm trying to finish up are the NX shuttlepod and Type 7 shuttlecraft.
I've already updated these two, and they should be okay:
Delta Flyer (mostly cosmetic changes)
http://lcars24.com/schem4.html
Aeroshuttle (minor correction)
http://lcars24.com/schem49.html
Two others I'm trying to finish up are the NX shuttlepod and Type 7 shuttlecraft.
I've already updated these two, and they should be okay:
Delta Flyer (mostly cosmetic changes)
http://lcars24.com/schem4.html
Aeroshuttle (minor correction)
http://lcars24.com/schem49.html
That's probably K't'inga class, of which there do seem to be variations like that. They look a lot like the D7, which is an older, TOS-era class.
I always preferred the K'T'inga designation myself, as I've seen the TOS version referred to as the Klolode class, but the two models look so similar that I find it a lot easier to think of the K'T'inga variant being a genuine refit, as opposed to the movie era Enterprise. I just use D7 as the basic model number, and FASA actually listed several different class names based on different variants.
Here's the next one:
Is that really the shape of the forward seat? Not a whole lot of lumbar support there. Just sayin'.
Otherwise, these are great!
Otherwise, these are great!
Saquist
Commodore
Is that really the shape of the forward seat? Not a whole lot of lumbar support there. Just sayin'.
Otherwise, these are great!
Thanks, all, for the kind words.
The mission-specialist seat in the figure doesn't show the lumbar support, either. The curvature you see there is of the near side restraint, which hides the lumbar support in profile view of any type of bucket seat.
One more:
Hm....
You know it always seemed to me the Type-7 shuttle should have some kind of small vertical intermix chamber in the back of it, just forward of the impulse engine (as implied in diagrams here). The actual model has a little dome over this spot that would work well as the lid for some type of reactor assembly, possibly the "dilithium chamber" Geordi Mentions in "Coming of Age."
You know it always seemed to me the Type-7 shuttle should have some kind of small vertical intermix chamber in the back of it, just forward of the impulse engine (as implied in diagrams here). The actual model has a little dome over this spot that would work well as the lid for some type of reactor assembly, possibly the "dilithium chamber" Geordi Mentions in "Coming of Age."
Sure, but that schematic doesn't really leave room for the spacious interior seen on TNG, with an actual bedroom in the aft section. EAS has quite a collection of interior screencaps, which boil down to exactly the layout I've depicted. That's pretty much what I was working from and tryting to make things fit into the space given.
Here it is:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/type7-shuttle.htm
The screencap labeled Unnatural Selection #4 shows a bed where the warp core in that drawing would be.
That page also shows an early concept drawing like the one you posted.
The dome is a navigation beacon.
I won't attempt Snoopy's doghouse.
Agreed with above: the "bedroom" depicted is the middle compartment where the sofas would otherwise be in normal configurations, as you can clearly see in screencap #3 (the cockpit is on the other side of the door). I actually think the middle compartment you've sketched is a bit too small in the context of either configuration, especially since "Samaritan Snare" depicts there's enough room for a row of equipment lockers next to (slightly aft of) the sofas.
Yes, but you that know the interior sets, taken together, are oversized in comparison with what could fit inside the hull, as is probably the case with all these shuttles, the Defiant, etc. What I did was look up today's mattress sizes, also keeping in mind that Riker is 6' 5" tall, and placed priority on showing the bed to scale as small as it could realistically be and leaving a little walking space, probably at the cost of sacrificing some width of the sofas.
I see that you're not really getting it:
The bed is in the same compartment that the Sofas are in. There isn't an extra compartment aft of the "living room" area where Picard and Wesley were eating sandwiches, its the SAME COMPARTMENT with the Sofas pulled out and a bed put in for Pulaski's purposes (and I'm not even sure what Riker's height has to do with anything since the guy on the bed was a fourteen year old boy).
I have to plead guilty to no longer having TNG on VHS, but here are some relevant screencaps. The top two seem to suggest three compartments, and the lower ones give some idea of what's in there. The bed might be a sofabed or other folding thing, but if the shuttle was designed to accommodate that, then it should be usable by somewhat tall humans like Riker, at least, if not Hupyrians.
I searched Trekcore for any screencaps from TNG: Samaritan Snare that would shed light on the compartments, but the only one I could find still suggests a short center compartment. And, as in the pictures of that compartment above, the back wall doesn't match that in the picture showing the bed.
I searched Trekcore for any screencaps from TNG: Samaritan Snare that would shed light on the compartments, but the only one I could find still suggests a short center compartment. And, as in the pictures of that compartment above, the back wall doesn't match that in the picture showing the bed.
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No, there are only two compartments.
Top left is a trick by Q when he has the turbolift open into the shuttlecraft instead of the corridor it's supposed to open into; when the door closes, Picard finds himself staring at the rear bulkhead of compartment #2, the hatch that never opens (presumably, it opens into the engine compartment).
Top right is a view of the "middle" compartment from the cockpit; the door in the background leading to the engine compartment is closed, so the cockpit and the middle compartment adjacent to it are the only ones visible or hinted at.
Bottom left is the same "middle" compartment with the sofas removed and a bed put in for Pulaski's experiments.
Which is why I think you made the middle compartment too small to erroneously accomodate an additional compartment aft. The bed should be able to fit into the MIDDLE compartment with the sofas removed; problem solved.
If there is anything in an additional (unseen) aft compartment, it is almost certainly engine components and fuel tanks (The Type-7 being the longer range variety of Enterprise' two main shuttlecraft designs). Apart from machinery and plumbing it may contain a small toilet and a first aid kit, but apart from that it is almost certainly NOT a furnished "bedroom" or anything of the sort.
Not THAT short, as evidenced here, here, here. And also in Q-Who, here where Q has enough room to bounce a small rubber ball off the forward bulkhead without standing with his back to the rear one.
Indeed, another example of a set redress for reasons that are never fully explained.
