• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

More Firefly?

Oh please. Learn to separate the art from the artist.
Pretty much this.

Whedon is sufficiently responsible for the creative uniqueness of the projects that he helmed that exhuming them for profit while shunning him is its own kind of immorality, not to mention cluelessness.

If someone's actually that objectionable to you, learn to get along without their creations. That's part of the price of moral judgment. There's no entitlement to the fruits of the poisoned tree.

"Oh, but a lot of other people contributed..." is not entirely untrue, but it's an argument of convenience offered to assuage the awareness that consuming such is...ethically inconsistent, to put it politely.
 
Well at least it wasn't something underwhelming and I can see why Browncoats would be jazzed about this.

Whedon's given them his blessing, presumably that means he makes money if it's a success, right?

Fillion says they just need a home, but would it be fair to say this might actually be the hardest element to get compared to all the other bits they have got?

Baldwin's involvement is a bit disappointing, but I can see why they felt it important to get the band back together (as far as they could)

Full disclosure I'm not the biggest FF fan in the world, and I'm also not the biggest animation fan (hell I'm a way bigger Babylon 5 fan than I ever was a Firefly fan and I still haven't seen The Road Home!) but if they gets made, and depending where it airs, I'll probably give it a go at least.

What do people think the odds of this actually happening are?
 
No and I've heard that Fillion just agreed they don't talk politics, plus I'm guessing if any of the cast have major issues with him it won't matter much as I'm guessing they'll mostly be recording their parts separately.
 
No and I've heard that Fillion just agreed they don't talk politics, plus I'm guessing if any of the cast have major issues with him it won't matter much as I'm guessing they'll mostly be recording their parts separately.
That seems to be common practice other than perhaps for first episodes.
 
No and I've heard that Fillion just agreed they don't talk politics, plus I'm guessing if any of the cast have major issues with him it won't matter much as I'm guessing they'll mostly be recording their parts separately.

Aww. Don't remind me of that. (Though it's not impossible for all of them to record their lines together, I figure the dynamic between two characters talking is better when they're recorded at the same time.)
 
There's really no reason Baldwin shouldn't work because his politics are bad.
Yeah, what's the worst that could happen after repeatedly giving a celebrity a pass for on acting on his malignant beliefs because he projects an entertaining tough-guy image?

Seriously, though, on Baldwin, I'm leaning towards a "But what has he done lately?" position. I'm not going to speculate he had some come-to-Jesus moment where he realized fomenting mob justice wasn't an appropriate response to a lady making a video game about being sad, but if he's not actually doing it anymore, then that's probably good enough. If I were organizing the new show, I'd have a serious talk with him about social media etiquette and that, in an animated medium, he'd be very replaceable if he started brigading randos, calling public figures racial epithets, or posting confused memes about how people being mean to him is worse than the holocaust, and that the Disney family of corporations was very much a "fire first, ask questions later" institution when it comes to people generating bad publicity for them.

Involving Whedon in a future project would probably get a lot less benefit of the doubt, since he's the opposite case; Whedon conducted himself well enough in public, but it was his actions one-on-one with people he actually knew and had direct power over that were harmful, so while we can see from the outside if Baldwin is keeping his nose clean or resuming his bad habits since his acts were in and against the public, Whedon would be able to abuse a position of authority and trust much more easily outside of the public eye.
 
Yeah, what's the worst that could happen after repeatedly giving a celebrity a pass for on acting on his malignant beliefs because he projects an entertaining tough-guy image?

That he'll say something ugly again that embarrasses his employers and they'll decide he's not worth the PR hit?

Because that's what they care about. Reputational risk.
 
What do people think the odds of this actually happening are?

I'm going to be a pessimist and maybe realist and say not good.

It entirely depends on the public feedback that goes beyond fan circles because hardcore browncoats is not enough of an audience to sink 10-20 million into a project these days.

Maybe they should have been going the crowdfunding route like the roleplaying group Critical Role did several years ago when they went on Kickstarter to get money to do a one off single animated episode or short movie professionally made. Little did they know and the thing exploded beyond everyones' wildest dreams collecting over 11 million ensuring a full initial first season and laying the groundwork to attract a major partner like Amazon to get the ball rolling in earnest. Now they have 2 animated shows running with the first soon coming into its 4th season and the second show completed a successful first season.

Like i previously said i don't think trying to ressurect an IP that's 20 years old with just one truncated first season and a movie ( which in itself was a small miracle being greenlit) but i would really like to eat my words and watch the first season in 2-3 years.
 
Where are you getting the YA thing and the comics adaptations from? Was that mentioned somewhere in the original announcement?
Because just because it's animated doesn't mean they're going to tone anything down or change the target audience, there are tons and tons of adult animated series out there now, we're well past the days of animation only being for kids.
And shows like this adapting tie-ins is very, very rare, out of all of the dozens of shows I've watched with tie-ins, I only know of two times where they adapated tie-ins, Star Trek: TNG's Where No One Has Gone Before and Doctor Who's Human Nature/Family of Blood.
I get that. I was just voicing my thoughts. The series and movie had some darkness to them. I just hope that it continues in the animated series.
 
I'm really excited to hear this news, I was not expecting the annoucement to actually be anything this big. I was kind of hoping it would be after Serenity, but I can see where setting it between the last episode and Serenity is the most appealing place to set, since that way they have everyone together and can just pick right up where the show left off, and set up the movie. I was a little surprised to see there's only two months between the series and Serenity, I had always assumed there was a least a year or two at the minimum.

From what I've seen online about them the Boom! comics set after Serenity introduced a "Wash-bot", maybe they could do the same thing in this if they go past Serenity.

Where are you getting the YA thing and the comics adaptations from? Was that mentioned somewhere in the original announcement?
Because just because it's animated doesn't mean they're going to tone anything down or change the target audience, there are tons and tons of adult animated series out there now, we're well past the days of animation only being for kids.
And shows like this adapting tie-ins is very, very rare, out of all of the dozens of shows I've watched with tie-ins, I only know of two times where they adapated tie-ins, Star Trek: TNG's Where No One Has Gone Before and Doctor Who's Human Nature/Family of Blood.

On the Who front Rise of the Cybermen and The Age of Steel were heavily inspired by Big Finish's 'Spare Parts' to the extent that the author got a thank you in the credits.

More recently The Star Beast was based on a comic that appeared in DWM in 1980 and it was quite a faithful adaptation.
 
On the Who front Rise of the Cybermen and The Age of Steel were heavily inspired by Big Finish's 'Spare Parts' to the extent that the author got a thank you in the credits.

More recently The Star Beast was based on a comic that appeared in DWM in 1980 and it was quite a faithful adaptation.

And Jubilee greatly inspired Dalek which was even written by Shearman.
 
On the Who front Rise of the Cybermen and The Age of Steel were heavily inspired by Big Finish's 'Spare Parts' to the extent that the author got a thank you in the credits.

More recently The Star Beast was based on a comic that appeared in DWM in 1980 and it was quite a faithful adaptation.

And Jubilee greatly inspired Dalek which was even written by Shearman.
Oh, I wasn't aware of those, but it's still very rare when you consider just how many tie-ins there are out there.
 
I really don't think this is going anywhere. Fillion is depending on online buzz to convince a platform that it's a viable project worth investing in, but in my experience, you really have to dig through a lot of negativity to find any genuine interest. Interest in a new series is definitely there, just not in an animated show.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top