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[DaveyNY]

I just wish Eagle-moss had put a lot more effort into the model.
Its pretty blah.

It should have the blue glow around the rear engines and the four circular discs need to be a lot more pink than copper.
Even if They didn't want to use appropriate colored plastic pieces, They could have at least done a much better paint job.

This is the first model I'm kinda disappointed with.

 

[thribs]

They can only work with what they’re given.

 

[Tuskin38]

You misunderstand. John Eaves didn’t design the Klingon ships. He designed the Starfleet ships. And they look the same as every other Starfleet ship he’s designed in the past. Eaves didn’t reinvent anything.

You misunderstood my post.
I was speaking hypothetically using your suggestion that Eaves should have done it.

According to the book Fuller told the designers to reinvent the Klingon designs.

If Eaves, hypothetically, had been the one designing the Klingon ships he would have reinvented the designs as that was the order from up high. They would have just looked different since he’s not those people.

But they probably wouldn’t have looked like the Klingon ships we know.

 

[DaveyNY]

They can only work with what they’re given.

Well then, apparently the Sp-fx guys knew the ship needed some pizzazz also for TV.

 

[Tuskin38]

It should have the blue glow around the rear engines and the four circular discs need to be a lot more pink than copper.

They’re copper in the show, and also in Star Trek Online.

Not sure why they’re pink in the eaglemoss renders.

 

[Dukhat]

You misunderstood my post.
I was speaking hypothetically using your suggestion that Eaves should have done it.

According to the book Fuller told the designers to reinvent the Klingon designs.

If Eaves, hypothetically, had been the one designing the Klingon ships he would have reinvented the designs as that was the order from up high. They would have just looked different since he’s not those people.

But they probably wouldn’t have looked like the Klingon ships we know.

My point was that despite what Fuller mandated, Eaves just made more of the same. Eaves is a nice guy, but I really wish they would have chosen someone else to design the Starfleet ships.

 

[DaveyNY]

My point was that despite what Fuller mandated, Eaves just made more of the same. Eaves is a nice guy, but I really wish they would have chosen someone else to design the Starfleet ships.

... like Probert or Drexler or Sternbach or Bonchune or Jein ...

You get the idea.

(one can dream)

 

[Tuskin38]

My point was that despite what Fuller mandated, Eaves just made more of the same. Eaves is a nice guy, but I really wish they would have chosen someone else to design the Starfleet ships.

Fuller didn’t say to reinvent the federation ships.

 

[Dukhat]

Fuller didn’t say to reinvent the federation ships.

And as I said before, it’s too bad that he didn’t.

 

[Tuskin38]

And as I said before, it’s too bad that he didn’t.

Why?

 

[F. King Daniel]

If you read the text, that's exactly what Bryan Fuller told the designers to do, ignore everything that came before.

Yet it's not a reboot:eyeroll:

What a schizophrenic production.

 

[F. King Daniel]

You misunderstand. John Eaves didn’t design the Klingon ships. He designed the Starfleet ships. And they look the same as every other Starfleet ship he’s designed in the past. Eaves didn’t reinvent anything.

Except he kept designing late-24th century ships (Enterprise excepted) even though the setting was pre-TOS.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

The more I look at the QUGH, the more it makes me think it looks like some kind of Klingon communicator.

 

[Gonzo]

Yet it's not a reboot:eyeroll:

What a schizophrenic production.

Discovery just doesn't know what it is, it thinks it does but that's not enough, it really makes me wonder about what went on behind the scenes, it must have been one hell of a bun fight and no one won.

The more I look at the QUGH, the more it makes me think it looks like some kind of Klingon communicator.

To be honest the Klingon ships in season one are nothing more than alien ships of the week, it seems they got the message though and we should finally see something recognisable in season 2.

 

[Tuskin38]

Except he kept designing late-24th century ships (Enterprise excepted) even though the setting was pre-TOS.

None of DSC’s Fed designs look late 24th century.

Late 23rd, maybe, but not 24th.

They don’t have phaser arrays, they’re not as rounded, they have domed bussard collectors, the nacelles are a lot more bulkier. They would stand out a lot more. I could not see any of them flying next to a Sovereign, or an Akira.

 

[F. King Daniel]

None of DSC’s Fed designs look late 24th century.

Late 23rd, maybe, but not 24th.

They don’t have phaser arrays, they’re not as rounded, they have domed bussard collectors, the nacelles are a lot more bulkier. They would stand out a lot more. I could not see any of them flying next to a Sovereign, or an Akira.

The USS Shenzhou was based on a TNG-era design Eaves made for a fan group!

 

[Tuskin38]

That’s just a coincidence. They went through several designs for the Shenzhou. The final Shenzhou is an earlier designed flipped upside down.

Even the shenzhou sticks out when put with the screen used 24th century Fed designs.

Which BTW, Eaves only ever designed 3 of, the Sovereign (plus Yacht), Holoship and Scoutship.

 

[Dukhat]

That’s just a coincidence. They went through several designs for the Shenzhou. The final Shenzhou is an earlier designed flipped upside down.

I suppose it's also a 'coincidence' that the Europa looks surprisingly similar to his concept art for the Insurrection holoship, just with four nacelles instead of two:

https://aa1a5178aef33568e9c4-a77ea5...full/b66a1b9c-cde3-44f2-979b-d4a1c0d8ce53.jpg

https://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/halo4.jpg

Even the shenzhou sticks out when put with the screen used 24th century Fed designs.

I can see the Walker and the Engle classes as descendants of the NX class (except for their nacelles), but the other classes would look fine if they were post-TUC ships instead of pre-TOS. And the Cardenas class would have even fit in perfectly as a post-Nemesis ship.

 

[Saul]

That’s just a coincidence. They went through several designs for the Shenzhou. The final Shenzhou is an earlier designed flipped upside down.

Not really a coincidence if he submitted the same design more than once. Flipped design doesn't make it a coincidence either. The nacelles of the final design do not resemble the unflipped version. They do resemble Mawson.

BTW, for those who bought the Art of John Eaves, I noticed a pic of an early NX concept that resembles a Xindi concept he did later https://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/d.jpg

 

[137th Gebirg]

Hey, if you can't plagiarize from yourself, who can you plagiarize from?