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Poll Moon, Mars, clean up, war?

Where should we spend all that money?


  • Total voters
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Abaddon

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Reading the news got me thinking.... I wonder what regular people think about this stuff. What would we choose if we actually had the vote on things? So I put the question to you. ..
Personally I'd like to see more about the moon.... make lunar archaeology a thing. Lol :)
 
If we can only pick one, I'm going with the environment. As cool as space exploration is, we need to make sure our home is in good shape.
 
Forget Mars. We should first

A) clean up our planet
B) build a permanent base on the Moon and head to Mars from the Moon where there is less gravity, and no atmosphere to cost us fuel.
 
Journey to Mars.

Because, it's what's next! The Discovery and Collaboration and New Technology and Exploration are worth the trip, and at the Core of Who We Are!

Yes.
 
Stepping away from the presented four choices, I don't think "what regular people think" in terms of the average persons priorities would have manned space travel/exploration the top of their lists.

Some might have the environment or war towards the top, but things like the economy, immigration, crime, education, energy that more directly effect their personal and family situations would be of more importance to a large portion of the population.
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The whole thread is based on a rather simply "either... or..." question.

You could as well have asked: Do you think we should stop wasting money on buying iPhones and other crap to instead fix global warming and hunger in the world.

Yes, of course we should. Stop buying iPhones and save the planet.
 
Stepping away from the presented four choices, I don't think "what regular people think" in terms of the average persons priorities would have manned space travel/exploration the top of their
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Thank you for stating this. .. I was actually unhappy with the way that sounded after I posted it. As if nasa and government officials agent regular people, as if people that aren't regulating officials aren't fully capable. .. Smh. Anyway.

As for the "either/or" part, Emilia, yes, this thread is just for fun for the most part but it also serves to satisfy a tiny portion of my smothering curiosity.
Personally I don't believe war will ever cease as its a part of our early nature and almost every mammalian species battles battles over dumb shit. Why should we be any different. Environmentally this is a given, but as long as war is a major thing I don't see the resources becoming available.
 
Reading the news got me thinking.... I wonder what regular people think about this stuff. What would we choose if we actually had the vote on things? So I put the question to you. ..
Personally I'd like to see more about the moon.... make lunar archaeology a thing. Lol :)
There's not a lot of archaeology to do there, given we already know where to find most of the stuff. It's not like there are any lunar natives who made huge alterations to their culture based on the stuff left behind by the Apollo program.

Forget Mars. We should first

A) clean up our planet
B) build a permanent base on the Moon and head to Mars from the Moon where there is less gravity, and no atmosphere to cost us fuel.
Cleaning up the planet will be an ongoing project that will take decades, at least.

I am in favor of a base on the Moon. Just yesterday there was an article on CBC.ca about the death of one of the Apollo astronauts, and someone said in the comments that it was such a shame that the Apollo astronauts are very likely to all be dead before anyone goes back to the Moon (paraphrase).

I don't understand your comment about Moon-to-Mars. Why would the Moon's lesser gravity and lack of atmosphere mean that no fuel would be needed to get a ship from there to Mars?
 
There's not a lot of archaeology to do there, given we already know where to find most of the stuff. It's not like there are any lunar natives who made huge alterations to their culture based on the stuff left behind by the Apollo program.


Cleaning up the planet will be an ongoing project that will take decades, at least.

I am in favor of a base on the Moon. Just yesterday there was an article on CBC.ca about the death of one of the Apollo astronauts, and someone said in the comments that it was such a shame that the Apollo astronauts are very likely to all be dead before anyone goes back to the Moon (paraphrase).

I don't understand your comment about Moon-to-Mars. Why would the Moon's lesser gravity and lack of atmosphere mean that no fuel would be needed to get a ship from there to Mars?


Not no fuel, but a hell of a lot less fuel then would be needed to break free of Earth's gravity. The ship might not even be needed to be as big as if it were launching from Earth.
 
I'm very concerned about the environment, as many are, but it's so complicated, how to even approach it. Cities keep expanding and breaking up the resources of dwindling wildlife. The oceans are so incredibly screwed up, depleted and trash-filled, with ever-growing dead zones. I mean ... roaches and jellyfish, is that all we're going to have left to remind us that Nature was here? Developed areas tend to stay permanently developed, whatever happens.

People care, you know? They do ... but ... only up to a point. They're certainly not going to do without, or let themselves become inconvenienced, at all. Then, look at the Moon, where every Apollo landing left a ton of trash, already. We just can't help ourselves, it seems like. We have to ruin everything. But maybe the exploration and eventual habitation of Mars could open our eyes to a miracle for us, here, on Earth. It's a longshot, but we need some answers ...
 
I'd say a little bit of war (preferably fully drone-based) to boost the economy.

Then go back to Luna, then Mars.
 
I voted for "More War". It is not because I am in favor of more war. It is because this answer is the one closest to the priority which I think nations will spend their money on in the coming decades. That is national security. The DoD has identified climate change as an issue of national security.
 
This is really a much more complex and intertwined issue, that can't be broken down to a simple choice. Speaking from a mostly American centric point, it's really a vicious spider web.

The enviroment is impacted because of our population and society, which is stagnating because it's built on the business of war, which is focused on maintaining our economic leadership for the most part.

Refocusing our attention towrd space exploration, colonization, and industrialization would allow an outlet for our population which would reduce the influence it has on the enviroment of the planet which would allow for it to be cleaned up and restore proper natural balance.
 
The problem here is that the decision isn't completely yours ("you" referring to some entity such as a country or other group). One country might choose the Moon, but if another country chooses war and attacks you, you are obliged to change your decision or cease to exist. Any country that wants to continue existing must choose war to some extent unless they are so small, poor, and devoid of resources that nobody else wants their territory. In that case, they can't really choose anything, can they?
 
There's only a handful of countries that have led us to war, or even started them. That is a shame. We don't need more war.
 
Reading the news got me thinking.... I wonder what regular people think about this stuff. What would we choose if we actually had the vote on things? So I put the question to you. ..
Personally I'd like to see more about the moon.... make lunar archaeology a thing. Lol :)
Since "single payer healthcare" wasn't an option, and since I don't give two shits about global climate change (so sue me!) I voted moon mission. As in prelude-to-colonization and hopefully found new sources of natural resources moon mission.

Can't even consider the "more war" option. We're a country without a serious military rival, whose only enemies are the pissed off peasants that are mad at us for starting the wars that ruined their countries in the first place.
 
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