Modern shows you think might not age well?

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  1. Jayson1

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    By modern I list any show that started in 2000 up until today. Here is 3 to start with:

    1 Silicon Valley:I wonder if the tech will make the show feel outdated in the future when in theory the tech will only keep getting better. Still I think it's possible the Silicon Valley, nerd/corporate thing is not going anywhere so that might still work.

    2 Game of Thrones: Once the water cooler effect of the show goes away and people know all the plots and twists I wonder if people are going to want to delve into a fantasy enviroment all that much with repeat viewings. I don't think that kind of fantasy stuff holds up over time for many and the kind of fantasy that does hold up better is things like "Stranger Days" were you have more modern day kinds of people that people can relate to.

    3 Big Bang Theory: Despite the nerd stuff I thinks it to 90's sitcom feeling and that won't hold up. In fact I think most sitcoms tend to not hold up, though you have some exceptions like "Seinfeld" or "The Office" to name a few that still do.

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  2. tomswift2002

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    “Smallville”

    “Enterprise”

    “The Big Bang Theory”

    “Young Sheldon”
     
  3. bigdaddy

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    Big Bang Theory is amazing case of aging poorly. It's still on the air and you can watch it age poorly as they still produce the show. Really amazing.

    Enterprise has aged better than Voyager, but I really think Discovery will age the worst out of all the Star Treks.

    Modern Family and Scandal I think will age very poorly.
     
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  4. Jayson1

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    Like Comic Book shows I kind of think Star Trek shows are almost age-proof in that even if the tech and special effects look dated the basic setting is always interesting and will always have fans of them.

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  5. Owain Taggart

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    If Half and Catch Fire can work, so can Silicon Valley. I don't see how outdated technology is going to keep it from being entertaining. It would be almost impossible it not to, especially at the rate technology is going at these days. If anything, Silicon Valley is a show that's on trend, and if it does get outdated, then one could look at it from a historical purpose the same way we do with Halt and Catch Fire.
     
  6. JirinPanthosa

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    I would disagree on Silicon Valley. It's at root a character driven show that satirizes a culture. It's okay if the technical references age, if the culture of entrepreneurism remains the same it will age well.

    Game of Thrones isn't dependent on twists and surprises to be enjoyable. You might have an argument for something like Lost, but Game of Thrones also has great imaginative characters, and beautiful world building that is fun to follow even knowing where they end up. Hell, in most seasons I enjoyed GoT more the second time than the first because when you get the overall flow of things you notice more.

    The shows most likely to age poorly, in my opinion, besides reality shows of course are the 'studio audience' style sitcoms. They try to be character driven but really all the characters and stories are based on the popular perception of the status quo, and THAT is constantly changing.

    I also think shows like 24 which are really driven by fears arisen by a particular point in time will age poorly.
     
  7. The Nth Doctor

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    Honestly, as much as I'm finally beginning to enjoy the show, The Orville. Any show that's full of current pop culture references as the lynch pin for humor and context is going to age poorly.
     
  8. Nerys Myk

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    Modern might be a stretch. ;)
     
  9. bigdaddy

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    How much has Seinfeld made in syndication? Over 3 BILLION dollars. It's aged well. So I wouldn't blame 'studio audience' style as much as I would blame bad writing.
     
  10. JirinPanthosa

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    Seinfeld was on at the same time as 50 other sitcoms that aged really, really poorly. And Seinfeld and David had to fight to be able to just tell stories about people instead of 'learning a lesson' every week. But yes, it's not the production style that is the problem, so much as the cheapness inherent in that style that tends to carry over to the writing.

    Also arguably, in the majority of cases, shows that film before a live studio audience are shows that know they need a laugh track to convince the audience they are funny.
     
  11. Snaploud

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    I think predictions that X show 'won't age well' are largely based upon an individual not liking that show in the first place. It's equivalent to saying a show was always crap and that future generations will agree with me.
     
  12. JirinPanthosa

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    It can be, but if you look at patterns you can try to be objective. Shows that are just about interesting people having adventures tend to age better whereas shows that rely on the assumptions of contemporary culture age less well. I do like 24 and Lost but I don't think they will age well.

    When Friends was on it had the same stature as Seinfeld and it's already starting to be seen as a 90s nostalgia relic.
     
  13. Starkers

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    To be honest of all the Trek shows the one I think has aged worst is Next Gen, it's all just so bland and beige, especially in the early years. The effects don't look good compared to later Treks and it never seemed to skip over the line to just look iconic and almost timeless in the way TOS has. The fantastic cast and some great stories make up for that some of the time, but not all. I'd have to watch Ent again to see how its aging, and I'm not minded to do that. I don't think its going to look any less dull, and if anything some things like the gel scenes are only going to look naffer as time goes on.

    I think Disco will age just fine, and Game of Thrones is pretty timeless. Mr Robot and anything tech based might suffer, or they might become a period piece. TWD should be ok, the zombie effects are pretty damn good and the themes of survival/struggle are pretty timeless.

    I've caught a few snippets of Buffy lately and boy that looks dated now. I wonder as well how some of the early RTD era Who will start to look soon- there's a lot of pop culture in there.
     
  14. JirinPanthosa

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    I disagree about Buffy. I saw it for the first time last year and loved it probably more than I would have when it first aired. Hell, recently Geeks Who Drink did a theme trivia night devoted to Buffy, and I went there and couldn't find a seat. It's popular as ever in geek niches.

    I agree about first season TNG but I think later TNG ages better.
     
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    ^Maybe I'm just less immune to the valley girl shtick than I once was.

    I think TNG's peak was in the middle of its run, it looked good towards the end, just not sure the scripts did it justice.
     
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    I can't speak for everyone's predictions but I love "Silicon Valley" and I like "Game of Thrones" but only find "The Big Bang Theory" as watchable. For me when I look at the question I tend to look at it from, younger fans in the future. For me some stuff that is dated doesn't bother me because I find it to be a kind if interesting look into the past or it was something I grew up watching so I will get most of the references and recall the time period of the show.

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    The first and last seasons were very week, the first script wise and sets, but the last season amazes me because they were expecting an 8th season. The writing doesn't show that.

    But I think only the first season really hasn't aged well. The sets were 80s and early 90s, but I think people will look pass that. But the first season is a mess we should just forget.
     
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    Aside from 45 minutes of the first episode, I haven’t seen Discovery.

    However I disagree with Enterprise. Considering it was cancelled early, even in syndication, when CBS was doing TOS-R, CBS yanked Enterprise out of Syndication and allowed the stations that had the Enterprise Syndication contract to still use that for the airing of TOS-R.

    Also, Enterprises CGI, especially during Seasons 1 & 2 on Blu-Ray, looks almost as bad as the cropped CGI on the Babylon 5 DVD’s.
     
  19. Timewalker

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    If Game of Thrones ever comes to some channel or online service I can access legally without paying an arm and a leg, I might try it. My telecom keeps offering the first season free for a month as an On Demand thing, but I haven't taken the bait. I don't want to risk liking it and then not being able to see the rest of it.

    Lost, on the other hand, I gave up on well before it finished. Absolutely nothing made any sense anymore, and I got tired of trying.

    Oh? I know I'd be interested in watching the first few seasons of Survivor over again, just to compare the gameplay and structure of the whole thing to now, when it's so different. Besides, I loved Greg and his coconut phone schtick. And remember when a huge reward was ONE SLICE OF PIZZA? Gervais could have kept it for himself, but he shared it by letting everyone have a bite of it. One of the rewards last week was that everyone on the tribe got a whole pizza all to themselves.

    As for studio audience sitcoms... I still love some of them - Three's Company will never not be fun for me, and a couple of months ago I found that someone had uploaded the entire Ropers series to YouTube. That's been a treat since I never got to see some of them when they were first on and they've never been rerun on any channel I could get.

    And dated as the humor is (and a bit racist and sexist at times) on Are You Being Served?, I still love that show.

    It depends on the show, and if it was written in such a way that it could appeal to people 20 years later (I've never seen 24 so I have no idea).

    M*A*S*H is a show that's definitely of the '70s and '80s, about a war that happened in the '50s, but the themes are timeless and the writing and acting were so superb that it will last for a long time still. I still remember the night the final episode was on TV. I was working in the theatre then, and the director gave everybody the night off from rehearsals. She knew nobody's mind would be on the play.
     
  20. Snaploud

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    They won 10 pizzas for 4 people, so that's 2.5 pizzas per person. The second place team had to share 1 pizza.