I hate that line.
As for the "another Earth" thing, that was one of Rodenberry's selling points when he pitched the series.
See page 4 of http://leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Original_Series/Star_Trek_Pitch.pdf
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I hate that line.
As for the "another Earth" thing, that was one of Rodenberry's selling points when he pitched the series.
See page 4 of http://leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Original_Series/Star_Trek_Pitch.pdf
I just finished watching it.
I didn't want to watch another episode that took place on a studio set that's clearly 20th century America but as soon as the mutant started attacking the away team and screaming about a tricycle I was hooked by the mystery. Once they started talking about an alien civilization that was experimenting with prolonging life and the disease that came from it, I immediately started to believe that yes, this was an alien planet with their own life-forms that just happen to mirror Earth in the past.
The pacing was perfect and at first I couldn't figure out what was going on. This is an aspect I really like about science-fiction short stories and SF in general: starting out this intriguing mystery and getting the reader/viewer hooked to find out the twist towards the end. Kind of like The Twilight Zone.
The leader of the Onlies was as an asshole. They sure did get the right actor to play him because I hated him. I was waiting for him to reject the Enterprise crew's help and be the main antagonist only for him to die from the disease. Or get shot by Kirk. And then the kid that was saying "bonk, bonk!!" with the hammer. I was just waiting for him to get violent and yeah, he and the others attacked Kirk. The only satisfaction was Kirk throwing him off the table when he was about to attack him for a second time.
There was a short story in a Twisted Tales comic from the 80s that had a very similar premise. It seems inspired by this episode.
It was an interesting episode though, and it definitely struck a chord of horror when the Onlies were luring them out the laboratory room and crew is looking for them in the hallways. The set, the chant of the kids, and the music was perfect. Creepy.
I can definitely see why fans of SF took to this show so quickly. I'm assuming there wasn't much sci-fi on television at the time that gave you a totally new speculative-fiction short story every week.
Spock's green blood gets mentioned here once again. The other guys get scratched up and bruised. Does Spock ever get bruised enough on the series to show him with green blood?
I didn't want to watch another episode that took place on a studio set that's clearly 20th century America but as soon as the mutant started attacking the away team and screaming about a tricycle I was hooked by the mystery. Once they started talking about an alien civilization that was experimenting with prolonging life and the disease that came from it, I immediately started to believe that yes, this was an alien planet with their own life-forms that just happen to mirror Earth in the past.
The pacing was perfect and at first I couldn't figure out what was going on. This is an aspect I really like about science-fiction short stories and SF in general: starting out this intriguing mystery and getting the reader/viewer hooked to find out the twist towards the end. Kind of like The Twilight Zone.
The leader of the Onlies was as an asshole. They sure did get the right actor to play him because I hated him. I was waiting for him to reject the Enterprise crew's help and be the main antagonist only for him to die from the disease. Or get shot by Kirk. And then the kid that was saying "bonk, bonk!!" with the hammer. I was just waiting for him to get violent and yeah, he and the others attacked Kirk. The only satisfaction was Kirk throwing him off the table when he was about to attack him for a second time.
There was a short story in a Twisted Tales comic from the 80s that had a very similar premise. It seems inspired by this episode.
It was an interesting episode though, and it definitely struck a chord of horror when the Onlies were luring them out the laboratory room and crew is looking for them in the hallways. The set, the chant of the kids, and the music was perfect. Creepy.
I can definitely see why fans of SF took to this show so quickly. I'm assuming there wasn't much sci-fi on television at the time that gave you a totally new speculative-fiction short story every week.
Spock's green blood gets mentioned here once again. The other guys get scratched up and bruised. Does Spock ever get bruised enough on the series to show him with green blood?
And yeah, I'm with everyone else on this issue. It should be a bigger issue as to WHY this planet and it's people look just like Earth. But I guess they wanted to focus on the Lord of the Flies-like aspect, which I don't necessarily have a problem with considering how good the episode was.
But merely mentioning that it was a forgotten colony world would have been a great way of explaining the whole thing and making it even better.
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We could have done with two different, totally unconnected stories here.
1) "Miri" as is, but set in a lost Earth colony, no parallel Earth stuff.
2) The mystery of the identical Earth - maybe some super-high-energy experiment accidently ported it over from another dimension or it was artificially created by the Presevers etc. Either way, the crew discover that it is now failing and something needs to be done, for the sake of the population, before it falls apart.
1) "Miri" as is, but set in a lost Earth colony, no parallel Earth stuff.
2) The mystery of the identical Earth - maybe some super-high-energy experiment accidently ported it over from another dimension or it was artificially created by the Presevers etc. Either way, the crew discover that it is now failing and something needs to be done, for the sake of the population, before it falls apart.
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The "other Earths" mystery is in practice an ongoing arc in TOS, if you want to look at it like that.
Early on, our heroes are stunned that such things could exist, but can do nothing beyond, well, being stunned. After they report home, this guy or gal Hodgkin formulates a theory of parallel development to try and make sense of it. And then the heroes uncover plenty of evidence that the galactic deck is in fact getting shuffled big time by greater forces: by powerful ancient cultures that seed and transplant, by time and space machines that whisk meddlers to places that should have nothing to do with Earth influences by virtue of their spatiotemporal coordinates, and by forces that craft or move entire planets either through advanced technology, or then simply at will.
By the end of these hectic five years at where apparently none indeed had gone before, the heroes should have resigned to the fact that the Milky Way is littered with Second Earths, and no doubt Second Vulcans and Second Andors as well. They need not have discovered why this would be, but they would have uncovered several routes to how this could be. And there really shouldn't be all that much fuss about it any longer.
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Early on, our heroes are stunned that such things could exist, but can do nothing beyond, well, being stunned. After they report home, this guy or gal Hodgkin formulates a theory of parallel development to try and make sense of it. And then the heroes uncover plenty of evidence that the galactic deck is in fact getting shuffled big time by greater forces: by powerful ancient cultures that seed and transplant, by time and space machines that whisk meddlers to places that should have nothing to do with Earth influences by virtue of their spatiotemporal coordinates, and by forces that craft or move entire planets either through advanced technology, or then simply at will.
By the end of these hectic five years at where apparently none indeed had gone before, the heroes should have resigned to the fact that the Milky Way is littered with Second Earths, and no doubt Second Vulcans and Second Andors as well. They need not have discovered why this would be, but they would have uncovered several routes to how this could be. And there really shouldn't be all that much fuss about it any longer.
Timo Saloniemi
Spock's green blood is seen a few times. In "A Private Little War" Spock is shot in the back and there is some green blood on the front of his shirt.
Timo, that's an intriguing idea. If you can put that into a story with some personal drama, it might be the first fan fiction I ever read.
After Spock is whipped by the Nazi Ekosians in Patterns of Force his back is covered in green lash marks! 
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Wow... I did not see that coming.
The issue with Archons and most of the the parallel Earth/planet of hats episodes' production design is that they could have easily mixed it up to make it feel alien. Just because you are shooting on an 1890 street set doesn't mean you have to rent American 1890s fashions for the inhabitants and have all the props be of the same period. They could just has easily put people in medieval tabards or all in cloaks or something, and made some handmade cut out of felt appliqués to apply to the clothes of the people "of the body". And how hard is it to paint a different clock face? How about an odd numbered one?
I think "Bread and Circuses" does it slightly better because we see the Jupiter 8 car and other things which are not so "now", but only slightly.
They went too parallel in their parallels.
I think "Bread and Circuses" does it slightly better because we see the Jupiter 8 car and other things which are not so "now", but only slightly.
They went too parallel in their parallels.
Many of the Onlies were related to the cast and crew. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Miri_(episode)
The red haired girl Shatner is carrying at the end of the episode is his daughter, Lisabeth. Leslie, Shatner's oldest daughter, is also one of the Onlies.
Grace Lee Whitney's sons Jon and Scott
The episode's director's nephew
Gene Roddenberry's daughters Dawn and Darleen
The red haired girl Shatner is carrying at the end of the episode is his daughter, Lisabeth. Leslie, Shatner's oldest daughter, is also one of the Onlies.
Grace Lee Whitney's sons Jon and Scott
The episode's director's nephew
Gene Roddenberry's daughters Dawn and Darleen
They had some children of actors on other shows on the lot, too. Phil Morris (the son of Greg Morris from "Mission: Impossible" and future guest star in STIII, DS9, and VOY) is in the mob of kids as well.
Good ideas!
Also, I had no idea any of those kids were related to the case. I did know there were multiple scenes that showed Spock had green blood, but I wonder how many of those scenes were edited for the remastered version. I didn't watch much Star Trek until a few years ago, so almost everything I've seen is remastered.
bwahahaha - glad to see someone is paying attention.Wow... I did not see that coming.
Miri and The Omega Glory had a lot of similarities story wise and in Omega Spock can be seen to have a green scar on his face when the Yang knife is thrust under his throat, incurred during his encounter with the attacking Yangs earlier on!
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