Midnight's Edge - Star Trek 4 has lost investor funding
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I know, I'm crying right beside you.TAKE THAT BACK!!!
It's disappointing there wasn't much of a plan for the movies beyond the flash reboot - which I enjoyed thoroughly. Beyond was two years ago. Given the stagnation on ST4 what are we looking at - 2020/21? Love it or not, but at least with the Star Wars & Marvel franchises you have a reasonably good idea when the next one is coming. Star Trek just looks shabby against the big guns.
Recasting (again) to me seems a horrible idea. In another thread - I can't remember which - a point came up re: Batman has been played by x amount of actors - why can't that apply to a character like Kirk? Well, as a sage poster pointed out - comic characters played on screen are interpretations of what had already been put to paper. So far as Trek is concerned, the actors themselves were instrumental in the genesis of the characters. I don't want Kirk version 3 or 4. Shatner is Kirk, Nimoy is Spock. I sure as hell don't look at Adam West as the quintessential Batman. That said, they did do a fantastic job recasting for the Abrams-Verse so far as Kirk-Spock. Love it as a one off. But doing it again? It starts cheapening the characters, IMO.
Recasting (again) to me seems a horrible idea. In another thread - I can't remember which - a point came up re: Batman has been played by x amount of actors - why can't that apply to a character like Kirk? Well, as a sage poster pointed out - comic characters played on screen are interpretations of what had already been put to paper. So far as Trek is concerned, the actors themselves were instrumental in the genesis of the characters. I don't want Kirk version 3 or 4. Shatner is Kirk, Nimoy is Spock. I sure as hell don't look at Adam West as the quintessential Batman. That said, they did do a fantastic job recasting for the Abrams-Verse so far as Kirk-Spock. Love it as a one off. But doing it again? It starts cheapening the characters, IMO.
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Well, we're getting a third Pike and a third Spock. We've had three Sareks and three Amandas.
We're getting a third Spock!
^Ok. Obviously subjective but when I read that - Pike: don't care. Spock: Nimoy ... Quinto. Sarek: Mark Lernard. Amanda: swap in for whoever.
Sarek in the reboot or Discovery I didn't care for. Pales in comparison to the original. Just some characters don't sit right recast for me.
Sarek in the reboot or Discovery I didn't care for. Pales in comparison to the original. Just some characters don't sit right recast for me.
I think the Star Wars films, in particular the Nu Trilogy, was dictated by the false alarm failing health of John Williams during the production of The Force Awakens. I think after the next chapter Disney will go to the 3 year gap between films. I prefer the films to come out where it doesn't feel like a rush product; I hope the creators are still working on making the script better or for my taste go in a more creative direction.
There's not going to be a ST4 unless Paramount works out a way to make money from it. There's not really a burning creative need to make another one either - Beyond makes them a decent trilogy, and we can happily imagine Kirk and co off on adventures on the new Enterprise-A. If someone comes up with a compelling story later down the line, there's nothing to stop the band getting back together ten years later, like the original gang did for TMP.
Now Trek is back on TV, the films should give it a rest. There's also rumours swirling that Paramount and CBS might end up back under the same banner once again. If that happens, it'll be possible to avoid all the legal balls and think strategically about what a good Star Trek film should be.
Now Trek is back on TV, the films should give it a rest. There's also rumours swirling that Paramount and CBS might end up back under the same banner once again. If that happens, it'll be possible to avoid all the legal balls and think strategically about what a good Star Trek film should be.
This makes me sad
Adam West is fantastic and is Batman for me. How so? In my opinion characters are open to interpretation and should be allowed to live forever with recastings. I understand that some actors will put their immortal stamp on it but recasting doesn't take away from that, any more than Quinto some how took away from Nimoy.
Personally, I want characters to continue and I struggle with the idea that because an actor passes a character must as well.
I have never felt as old as I did when I realised that Zachary Quinto was the old Spock.
oh they absolutely made the wrong call jettisoning Orci/Shatner for Lin/Pegg.
indeed. can totally see a more '80s Trek movie' movie coming down the line complete with the maroon uniforms, saavik, darker haired Kirk, return of Khan, mushroom spacedock/excelsior/BOPs, movie nacells/rainbow warp trails/blue transporter fx, more TUC style bridge etc etc
Ten years? They'll reboot The Undiscovered Country in 20
man i just don't see where all the pining for orci's film comes from. the guy would've been a first time director and (despite writing trek 09 and into darkness) wrote some of the biggest stinkers of the last 10 years: transformers revenge of the fallen, cowboys & aliens, the amazing spider-man 2...
i'm not saying his version of trek 3 was destined to be terrible, but the odds of it being better than what we got seem pretty long.
Honestly I wouldn't even post links to Midnights Edge videos, they have a MASSIVE agenda when it comes to Discovery and to a slightly lesser extent the JJ Trek films
As for Star Trek 4, i think people would be surprised how big of an audience Hemsworth would help bring in in a featured role, He's become a bigger star than Pine now, so I hope it gets made.
As for Star Trek 4, i think people would be surprised how big of an audience Hemsworth would help bring in in a featured role, He's become a bigger star than Pine now, so I hope it gets made.
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To the point where they make up things, yes. They fabricate "insider secrets," and edit interviews to make the interviewee agree with Midnight Edge's narrative. They make predictions of things they've claimed that people close to the films and TV series are telling them, and then those things don't come true, or show up in any reputable trade publication. They are wholly untrustworthy.
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well he was the main one that came up with the idea of ST09 so would've been best for the trilogy had he continued the plot he had in mind for the 3rd film to tie back to the 1st film with the return of Kirk Prime/alt timeline stuff (after the TDK style 2nd film with the iconic villain). - he shouldn't have tried to do a goyer/Blade 3 though and just been content to be the writer (had JJA not defected to SW maybe wed have got Orcis ST3 or had Orci not tried to direct maybe there would've been someone else directing his script as was rumoured - Rupet Wyatt, Joe Cornish, Edgar Wright)
but what we got wasn't that great anyway (barrel rolls for cover from imminent incoming phaser blasts)
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Kelvin Trek now has 2 unproduced scripts (partly still hoping I am speaking too soon on SJ Clarkson's ST4... DO YOU HEAR ME PARAMOUNT PICTURES AND BAD ROBOT?). But Trek as a whole has shitloads... from unmade sequels to The Motion Picture, to another Search For Spock where Spock stays dead, to the Starfleet Academy movie, to the version of Generations where Picard summons a holographic Kirk for advice, to that Romulan War film where Enterprise NX-01 is at Risa and misses the whole thing...[/B]
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