Memorable Treklit Villains?

[marlboro]

Not that she probably had a lot of options y'know. All the other eligible bachelors in her class are either non corporeal, or momma's boys like Trelane.

Probably not a lot of action in the Nigh Omnipotent Classifieds section either:

SWQ Looking for Someone to Grow Immortal With. Mature* non smoker** Domme***

*born before the Big Bang
**I'm not into Pah-wraiths
***absolute power over all space and time

 

[Damian]

I couldn't stand any of the Myrshak/Culbreath novels. In fact I don't think I even finished one. Much, much too weird.

I didn't run into another Trek novel like that until the Lost Era WELL OF SOULS. Hell, if I didn't know any better, I'd have thought M/C wrote that one too.



Baras Rodirya



Ah yes, then she goes on a rampage through the multiverse... "Crisis on Infinite Kiras".

I am finding "Fate of the Phoenix" very hard to finish. I've never given up on a book, but I almost don't care how it ends. Sometimes I don't know who is who, who is supposed to do what and why, and what's really bad is I stopped caring. Spock is reduced to a flat character due to his prior battle with Omne and Kirk is basically at the mercy of Omne and is rendered powerless. That's not the Kirk I remember. I'm not saying that from some macho man standpoint, just that Kirk has an inner strength that he draws from, a confidence that is sorely lacking in "Fate". This is more than just knowing your limits. At one point Omne is almost dragging Kirk by the arm.

At least with "Price" I was able to follow a long with what was going on and I found it interesting enough to read through and care about the story.

 

[Christopher]

For some reason, Marshak & Culbreath liked the idea of Kirk being completely physically and emotionally (and implicitly sexually) dominated by a more powerful man or men. It's a recurring theme in all four of their novels.

 

[DarKush]

Qagh was the Albino if I'm not mistaken. I've almost forgotten Morjod. The Left Hand of Destiny was great.

Don't forget the novel adventures of Intendant Kira. And Iliana Ghemor is also memorable. She turned into an avanging angel after the things Dukat has done to her.

You're right about Qagh. I thought Forged in Fire did a very good job of fleshing out the character. Unfortunately I haven't read any of the novels with them in there. I did read Warpath, which I think teased Illiana Ghemor, or the Mirror Ghemor (?), but I didn't read Fearful Symmetry which I'm assuming expanded on the character. I also didn't read any of the novels with Intendant Kira, unless she was in Spectre, but it's been so long I don't recall if she was. I did enjoy Intendant Kira a lot on DS9 though. She was one of the most memorable villains on that series.

 

[Kilana2]

Spoiler: Iliana Ghemor

I think Mirror Iliana became the Emissary in the Mirror Universe if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Damian]

For some reason, Marshak & Culbreath liked the idea of Kirk being completely physically and emotionally (and implicitly sexually) dominated by a more powerful man or men. It's a recurring theme in all four of their novels.

Ha-ha, yeah. It's sort of a shame because I actually thought Omne made a pretty interesting villain. He obviously has a complicated history and the story if explored properly had some potential. But "Fate..." especially is so complicated and even murky at times it has actually become a chore to read. I usually read a book in about 2 to 3 weeks, maybe a month if I'm busy with other stuff. I started Fate back in July and am only about 2/3 of the way through. But I'll finish it. I can't stand to leave a book unread.

 

[DonIago]

This is why I've been struggling with a book and putting it aside for years at a time...

...but it's not that the book is bad, it's just that it's not in a style I'm really comfortable with...and if I repeat that enough times...

 

[Christopher]

I'll give Fate of the Phoenix one thing. It's the first Trek novel that attempts to address the moral ambiguities of the Prime Directive. It takes a stab at a greater conceptual and philosophical depth than most of the other Bantam novels. However, it doesn't really commit to it. It raises the questions, but doesn't really follow through in exploring them or attempting to answer them. M&C's subsequent novel The Prometheus Design is in the same vein, attempting philosophical profoundness and posing some interesting and challenging questions, but not following through adequately.

 

[Damian]

I'll give Fate of the Phoenix one thing. It's the first Trek novel that attempts to address the moral ambiguities of the Prime Directive. It takes a stab at a greater conceptual and philosophical depth than most of the other Bantam novels. However, it doesn't really commit to it. It raises the questions, but doesn't really follow through in exploring them or attempting to answer them. M&C's subsequent novel The Prometheus Design is in the same vein, attempting philosophical profoundness and posing some interesting and challenging questions, but not following through adequately.

Yeah. It's a shame really because at the point I am in the story that plot point is all but lost. I actually forgot all about that. And they posed that question in both books and at least at the point I am in "Fate...." it is something that was brought up, then largely forgotten about. I don't really expect it to be addressed again to any great degree either as the story has largely moved on in about 5 different directions....at the same time.

I guess they are so concerned at showing Kirk as actually a weak man who wants to be dominated by stronger men that they actually forgot about a plot point that could actually be, you know, thought provoking