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Who are the best of the bad guys in Trek Literature?
The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh duology makes Khan into a much more interesting antagonist than TWOK did. He was much more along the lines of the Khan depicted in "Space Seed" in those books. I love that he starts out as a possible ally of Gary Seven's and that initially their goals are aligned. It makes the scene where Kirk and co. discuss Khan's achievements more plausible while still setting him up as an antagonist in the end.
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^I haven't read either of those, but the third Khan book is on my "to read" list.
It's strange that there aren't more memorable bad guys. Usually it's just stock evil generals, corrupt politicians, or just plain old hard headed aliens.
The first two exceptions that I can think of are Korgh from the Prey trilogy and the Intendant in Saturn's Children. There have to be more than that though, right?
It's strange that there aren't more memorable bad guys. Usually it's just stock evil generals, corrupt politicians, or just plain old hard headed aliens.
The first two exceptions that I can think of are Korgh from the Prey trilogy and the Intendant in Saturn's Children. There have to be more than that though, right?
My favorite has absolutely been Adrik Thorsen from Federation.
Colonel Mitra from The 34th Rule was interesting. "Call me Gul Mitra..."
At first I had Jeremy Irons as my mental image of Thorsen. Then I realized that Irons wouldn't have fit with the bleached-blond Aryan type that they seemed to be going for. So now it's...oh, hell, I can't remember the guy's name, but he was Captain Daly from Black Mirror's "USS Callister."
Black Omne. He beat the jungle out of Kirk. Nobody else did that
Control/Uraei and some of the Section 31 members. L'Haan was really creepy.
The parasites from the DS9 relaunch and their kinship with the Trill symbionts, especially the Spawn Mother.
The Breen were quite mysterious onscreen and were demystified in the novels. Some regret that and prefer not to know who is underneeth the suits and helmets.
The parasites from the DS9 relaunch and their kinship with the Trill symbionts, especially the Spawn Mother.
The Breen were quite mysterious onscreen and were demystified in the novels. Some regret that and prefer not to know who is underneeth the suits and helmets.
The Section 31 agents in the The time to kill books are a nasty bunch of villians and the also the ones in the Enterprise novels Patterns of Interference by Christopher L.Bennet. I wish we'd fingd out what the aftermath will happen with Section 31 in the Enterrpise books since TNG is going to be adressing the aftermath of events in the upcoming novels Available and Collateral damage.
From The Price of the Phoenix:Beat the jungle out of Kirk?If Kirk were black that would be extremely racist, but he's not so I'm just confused now.
You did not surrender. But the jungle in you did. You feel it now. You want to obey. You will always want to, and always want to fight. But you know me. You know me as master.
In Federation, Adrik Thorsen was pretty creepy, especially after he let the Grigari rebuild him (and they rebuilt him...wrong).
Definitely a great book to read. Cox does a great job tying Space Seed and TWOK together and addressing any inconsistencies between the two and giving a great back story as to why Khan is so singularly obsessed with Kirk in TWOK (and his slow decent into madness between Space Seed and TWOK).
Yeah, he was pretty good. I thought there were elements of him and his Optimum movement that could still fit in the existing canon continuity.
The Breen in the post-Typhon Pact novels are pretty good villains too. As the Romulans are trying to develop a more positive relationship with the Federation, the Breen are quietly trying to undermine them to gain greater influence in the Pact (that's why bad guys banding together rarely works, someone is always manipulating the others).
The backstory of the Trill parasites was fascinating, and how they came to be.
The Ascendants were also interesting. It took a long time for them to develop, esp. Raiq who was a complicated villain turned potential ally.
I also liked Kodos' portrayal in "Drastic Measures"
Ishan Injar (I forget his real name offhand), the temporary President of the Federation was another pretty good villain.
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