Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Romulan_spy, Feb 4, 2023.
Well, they want equality. Here it is.
Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.
That doesn't sound very much like it would be "TNG's Star Trek VI". TUC went for a darker tone at the beginning, then backed off by the end.
1. If Strange New Worlds ended (it won't), I wouldn't care. It's okay but it also feels like "been there, done that." I haven't looked at any of it since the season ended. And even there, I only watched each episode once. I haven't and am not planning to buy the Blu-Rays, whereas I do that with DSC and PIC.
2. While I would prefer that Discovery ran seven seasons, I would be okay with it ending after five. DSC has reached the point in its life-cycle where if it ended in Season 5, 6, or 7, I'd feel like, "I'm sad to see it go, but it had its run." So, due to the age of the series, I'd be okay with it ending too.
3. It's not about the setting, all the Star Trek series currently take place on a starship, it's about the characters. Are the characters different enough? We're talking about CBS here. They had how many Law & Order and CSI type of shows? Exactly.
L&O is NBC.
Although it was originally a CBS show. The pilot episode ("Everybody's Favorite Bagman") and a few episodes were actually filmed for a season which was to air on CBS from 1989-90. This never happened, and NBC ended up getting the show. So those episodes were held back and aired on NBC in the actual first season (1990-91).
You can tell which first season episodes were CBS because they don't have the Doink Doink sound (and the onscreen text is a different font).
There’s no evidence of that.
I don’t think Alandra is on the Titan. It says she’s a ship builder. She’s probably working wherever her father is.
Another reason why Seven is different from most other Captains in Starfleet: She spent a good portion of her career fighting on the ground.
She's used to fighting her wars up close and personal. She's an in-your-face grunt.
I assume they will actually explain how Seven can get a real Starfleet commission?
Field commission accepted and allowed her to attend a briefer stint at the Academy.
Or she opened the right box of Cracker Jacks.
I think Matalas tweeted something about an accelerated command track that Seven wasn't entirely comfortable with.
Seven at the Academy. Oh, I'd love to see that.
On a completely unrelated matter, I'm glad to see Todd Stashwick back. Not just because of his previous Trek work (Major Talok on ENT) but he's also played four different L&O roles.
Take me out to the Academy
Take me out with the Collective
Buy me some peanuts and Cracker Jacks
I don't care if I never get back
So it's root, root, root for the xB
If she don't win it's a shame
For it's one, two, three drones you're assimilated
At the old Borg game
Tell me they know nothing about how the military works IRL without telling me they know nothing about how the military works IRL.
They could've said Starfleet gave her a direct commission and that would've been the end of it.
And it would have the added advantage of making some sort of sense, since Seven has the accumulated knowledge and experience of God knows how many Starfleet personnel. So in effect she's already BEEN to the Academy, probably tens of thousands of times
Good thing Starfleet isn't like any IRL military.
Well, to be fair, Seven's situation (being an ex-Borg) is absolutely unique.
Friend of mine has joined the Royal Navy... he's going in at a higher rank, but is stuck in the academy stuff for longer to get a better understanding of the crap he'll need to yell at/throw spanners at when it goes horribly wrong.
They really could've just let Picard throw in another favour-chip and trade it for a Borg First officer.
Except for Icheb. Who was wearing a Red-Shirt when he died.
What if TOS -- was made today? It's a fair topic for a reboot. And episodic can offer refreshing variety. But it's interesting to see both legacy canon heavy Star Trek fans and Discovery fans having problems with SNW's approach. These shows are just too expensive for hyper fragmentation, especially if the money spigot that's funded the streaming bubble slows and corrects.
SNW does make for a good juxtaposition to what a likely The-Next-Next-Generation would be. Is the future of the franchise really (Soft) reboots or moving forward? But, as a legacy Star Trek fan, SNW does "scare me" the most.
It may not specifically be a Seven of Nine fronted show, but there's enough evidence that end of Picard season 3 sets up something that could be a follow up series.
You get SNW. That... that's it. SNW seems less canon breaking than Discovery first was when it came onto the scene, and we're not seeing hyper fragmentation, I don't think. The only thing I can see Discovery Fans having with SNW as a concept is there isn't a maguffin of the season to pursue and everyone doesn't cry for 20 minutes out of 45. It's a show thats tried to see if the "old way" of doing Trek might be popular because it's some actual escapism on screen, so far as I am aware on the internet at large, SNW season 1 was so popular the main fear expressed is how the hell you top such a strong first season.
Paramount likely has some bean counter somewhere who determines when shows do or don't break even. The only thing we do know is Paramount seem to be doing a better job than Netflix at trying to retain customers.
One could argue that it's a "prequel series with updated visuals because it's not 1966 any more" rather than a "soft reboot". Certain visuals and things are going to look like absolute garbage to an audience in the 2020s, the 1960s controls being the first, and the miniskirt uniforms being the second.
Just to reinforce my last point (Damn you no edit button!)
The Defiant looks outright silly in 2005's In a Mirror, Darkly when compared to the controls the X01 is rocking. It's going to look even sillier nearly 20 years later. You can't just resume push buttons in an era of touch screens and gesture controls.
Confession Time: I've never seen a single episode of Law & Order or CSI. I have seen some of the early seasons of NCIS but that's only because my father watches that show and I hadn't moved out yet. So I saw some of NCIS due to being in the same house.
I used to be a moderator on TrekBBS during the early years of the board. And one of my co-mods, who'd seen "In a Mirror Darkly", told me that he thought the Defiant looked outdated and out-of-place next to the NX-01, then followed with a "Sorry!" because he knew I'm a big TOS Fan and he didn't want to offend me. I told him I wasn't offended. As much as I love the show, the production values of TOS didn't age as well as TNG's. And it's fair to say that now because TNG today is just as old as TOS was when ENT was on.
That type of death would make sense.
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