"Measure of a Man" a 6th season TNG episode

[CaptainStoner]

This episdode was on Spike the other day. I hadn't seen this one before, as I started working full time when the 6th and 7th seasons were on, and was too busy with other things in life to set the old VCR.
What a good job Marina Sirtis does in this episode, and what a fun one it must have been for an actor. She really manages to wipe out all sense of Troi. I loved that scene where the crewman comes in for counselling because the Leuitenant has been on her case, and when you see Troi, the warm patience is completely replaced with a cold patience until she says "Maybe he's just tired of you complaining all the time....I know I'm sick of it...." Really well acted and a rare opportunity for her to get out of the 90's Troi Goddess of Compassion for a minute. She gets increasingly dark and unstable to the end, I only think there could have been one or two other scenes showing the mental transformation. They used makeup and wardrobe to show each stage, and then you see her acting in that stage, but you don't get to see her slipping in between them.
Also quite funny when that crewman she's been shagging jumps up and jams his boot on when Riker comes in. That poor, lucky bastard. I'll bet Riker quietly transferred his ass to an agricultural freighter, or perhaps the Janitorial Special Ops. We don't see them much on TV, they're the ones with the green jumpsuits...

 

[tomalak301]

I think you're talking about Man of the People. Measure of a Man was a season 2 (And ten times better) episode dealing with whether or not Data was sentient.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I always wished I was that crewman. He got to bang Crazt Hot Troi!

 

[DonIago]

I guess Riker would be well within his rights to ask what had gotten into her....if you know what I mean.

 

[CaptainStoner]

Ooops my bad on the episode title.

 

[Doug Otte]

I was shocked (and aroused...err, did I say that?) when Riker went to her quarters and she answered the door wearing that translucent nighty. It was pretty bold to show nipples on a regular (non-premium-cable) show back then, and maybe it still is.

Doug

 

[SmoothieX]

*whoooooooosh* off to Trekcore ASAP.

Oh, and note to the OP: As others have said, it's "Man of the People."

"Measure of a Man" was a documentary made at the end of the series focusing on how the costume department had to 'let out' Riker's uniform a little more each year.

 

[tomalak301]

^I don't remember that documentary.

 

[STIntergalactic]

SmoothieX said:
*whoooooooosh* off to Trekcore ASAP.

HA! That's the first thing I did too.

And on an aside note, I just read the other day that some people think this episode was based off of the Dorian Gray story. Which upset me greatly because doing a Star Trek fan fiction based off that story was my idea. Even though my idea came about 14 years after this episode aired. There must have been some sort of temporal disturbance that allowed them to steal my idea. Of course, I guess it really wasn't my idea, I stole it from Oscar Wilde. It's just not fair that someone else stole it first.

OK, I'll shut up now.

 

[Anwar]

The ship transporting the ambassador guy was called the "Dorian", so I think that was also a tip of the hat to the original idea.

I always wondered though, were those ships attacking the transport people who were opposed to him mediating the conflict, or were they relatives of his past victims going for revenge?

 

[Jack Bauer]

tomalak301 said:
^I don't remember that documentary.

It doesn't exist. It's a joke about Riker's weight gain.

 

[Shikarnov]

ST_Intergalactic said:

SmoothieX said:
*whoooooooosh* off to Trekcore ASAP.

HA! That's the first thing I did too.

It's too bad Trekcore showed only two caps from the scene in question, and that those weren't even worth the bandwidth... Thank God Google is less discriminant

J

 

[Doug Otte]

ST_Intergalactic said:

SmoothieX said:
*whoooooooosh* off to Trekcore ASAP.

HA! That's the first thing I did too.

And on an aside note, I just read the other day that some people think this episode was based off of the Dorian Gray story. Which upset me greatly because doing a Star Trek fan fiction based off that story was my idea. Even though my idea came about 14 years after this episode aired. There must have been some sort of temporal disturbance that allowed them to steal my idea. Of course, I guess it really wasn't my idea, I stole it from Oscar Wilde. It's just not fair that someone else stole it first.

OK, I'll shut up now.

Hmmm, is it possible that an even greater temporal anomoly (I love that word - say it slowly - "a-no-mo-lyyyy!") allowed Oscar to steal your idea?

I think we've created another thread that is more entertaining than the actual episode we're discussing.

Doug

 

[STIntergalactic]

So at some point in my future, I may travel back in time and meet Oscar Wilde unknowingly. After a few drinks, I'll babble on about how Paramount stole my idea about a Star Trek based off of Dorian Gray. He'll say, "Dorian Gray? What's that?" Then I'll tell him all about it, and he'll go on to write the story.

If that turns out to be the case, I'm suing for back loyalties.

 

[Dream]

CaptainStoner said:
Also quite funny when that crewman she's been shagging jumps up and jams his boot on when Riker comes in. That poor, lucky bastard. I'll bet Riker quietly transferred his ass to an agricultural freighter, or perhaps the Janitorial Special Ops. We don't see them much on TV, they're the ones with the green jumpsuits...

Oh man that was such a great scene.

 

[Doug Otte]

Doug Otte said:
I was shocked (and aroused...err, did I say that?) when Riker went to her quarters and she answered the door wearing that translucent nighty. It was pretty bold to show nipples on a regular (non-premium-cable) show back then, and maybe it still is.

Doug

I watched this episode last night. It might have been only the 3rd time I've seen it (first aired; first run-through of the DVDs, then last night). Anyway, it was more entertaining than I remembered, but still a lesser episode. Sirtis did a nice job acting; she almost seemed like a different person when "possessed."

And, the scene in question was not quite as I described. The nightie (sp?) wasn't translucent, but it was thin enough, and Sirtis was ten-hut enough, that it made the shapes of her...assets...quite apparent. Thrilling, really...

Doug

 

[WillsBabe]

This is one of my favourite tng episodes. It appeals to the fangirl shipper in me. So much so I wore it around the board for a few weeks some time back: