Massive tragedy unfolding... Notre Dame Cathedral on fire

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  1. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The corner stone was laid 1163.
    850 years.
    We're watching it burn away.
    I can't stop thinking about it.
     
  2. Gary7

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    Yes, I believe it was partly due to the renovations going on. So there's at least that. It'll take a few days or weeks before the extent of loss is known.
    That is one of the more glaring tragedies, as the light coming through that glass was one of the mystical, revering experiences inside. No doubt that very highly detailed photos have been taken of everything, so hopefully they could make highly detailed replacements so at least visually it would be hard to tell the difference.

    There's quite a gallery of photos on CNN... the one where you see the fire eating away at the curved roof on the far end, is just chilling to the bone. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/world/gallery/notre-dame-cathedral-fire/index.html
     
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  3. feek61

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    I was there a few months ago and was amazed at all of the incredible artwork inside, the paintings, carvings, tapestries, etc. It would be tragic if one of those was lost but I fear most of it is gone.
     
  4. Orac Zen

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    What miserable news to wake up to. I've always thought I'd like to see it, to go to Mass there one day.

    At least it's not completely destroyed, but all that history and beauty gone. Awful.
     
  5. Gary7

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    Some good news in the midst of all this mind numbing devastation:
    NY Times: "By late evening, the Paris fire chief said that the structure, including the two towers, had been saved, but that two-thirds of the roof was destroyed."
    Thank the Parisian fire fighters for their quick work, to contain the damage at least this much.
     
  6. Peach Wookiee

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    I felt awful when I saw the news blurb on my phone at work. That cathedral was so beautiful.

    Disney did extensive drawing and notes on the cathedral when they were making "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." Hopefully they can help too.
     
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  7. Tosk

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    It's a damn shame to lose such a historic building but I'm just glad no life was lost.
     
  8. Owain Taggart

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    This is a damn shame. As easy as something can be rebuilt, you just can't rebuild history. One can only hope they'll rebuild it stronger.

    All this discussion is reminding me of Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth and the tragedies surrounding their cathedral.
     
  9. Galaxy

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    The first pictures of the interior give cause for hope. It seems that most of the vaulted ceiling held up. Even the linen on the alter appears to have survived. Not sure about the state of the windows.
     
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  10. Scribble

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    I'm sure there is old growth somewhere in the world that can be used, but wood today is structurally different due to our environment. That's one of the reasons reclaimed wood is so popular and valuable right now.
     
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    They released an update (I have yet to verify the source, it was a welding tool)
    But I for whatever reason I struggled to imagine. I appreciate the help.
     
  12. Awesome Possum

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    I imagine we have enough data to fully recreate it. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some 3D scans made at some point.
     
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    It's not unheard of for movie production companies to be called on for restorations and recreations of historic buildings and objects, but I think you're probably right that there is probably more data on Notre Dame than just about any other structure on this planet, photographic and laser-scanned.
     
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    I think Disney may have done 3D scans or models of the cathedral. I know they did many drawings.
     
  15. Finn

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    Dang. I was there 22 years ago with the French class from my high school (I took Spanish)
     
  16. Non Sync

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    It sounds like a lot of the artifacts were able to be saved, including the crown of thorns and the tunic of Saint Louis. Due to the restoration, the sixteen copper statues had been removed last Friday. It sounds like the organ and stained glass windows were not damaged.

    Back in 2008, Universal Studios Hollywood experienced a major fire that burned a two-city-block area and the Courthouse Square set seen in Back to the Future. The fire was caused by a work crew using a blow torch to apply singles to roof. They had finished their work and stood watch for an hour. About 45 minutes after they left for a break, flames were spotted.
     
  17. Gary7

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    In some ways, this was probably the least destructive moment that the fire could have happened. No people around to be injured or killed. A significant number of artifacts moved off to make way for renovations. It is tragic that there has been some loss of priceless artifacts, but had this wake-up call occurred later AFTER the renovations were completed (I could not find any indication of funding allocated for a newer and more effective fire suppression system), much more would have been lost, and quite possibly human lives.
    Photos of damage: PHOTO 1, PHOTO 2.
     
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    Those photos made me profoundly sad. The first with the cross almost hurts.

    I do believe she will be salvaged and restored.
     
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  19. Jim Klag

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    They were apparently able to save a lot of the art works and relics and three of the rose windows survived and the basic stone structure seems to be intact. Who says there are no more miracles.
     
  20. StametsFungi

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    Sorry but I loathe religion, one less building that hangs to that misguided self righteous belief no matter what the historical significance isn't a bad thing.