Marvel Comic's sliding timeline & its problems
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That just means you've read or watched a lot ( or too many) of these stories. For some readers its their "first time". The aging jaded fanboy should not be a "key demographic."
The aging jaded fanboy is pretty much the *only* demographic for big two comics.
Interestingly, it's the aging jaded fanboy who most wants the rolling timeline. Potential readers don't care about Peter Parker. If they did, they would be actual readers instead.
Or maybe they care about Peter Parker in the abstract: in this way, films have severely burdened comics as an actual storytelling medium. I understand the economics of subordinating the fiction of a book that sells 150,000 copies a year to the fiction of a film that sells thirty million tickets and ten million DVDs in the same time period... but it's still hard to say why it should be so, when the whole point is that no one in that film audience gives a single, solitary damn about the comic in the first place, other than the people who were reading it already.
Anyway, maybe I'll just believe that Nick Fury's Infinity Serum or whatever it's called is actually commercially marketed, but never commented on, in the same way that shaving cream and antidepressants are not mentioned. I think we can all agree that any government with an immortality potion that keeps it a secret is a monstrous entity, worth trying to destabilize while wearing a beekeeping suit.
Most of the aging jaded fanboys I know want the characters to age with them. They seem uncomfortsble with the idea that they are older than their heroes.
The folks who watch the films greatly out number those who buy the books. And probably wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic book, no matter how much they enjoyed the film.
IIRC, Fury's formula wasn't created by the government, it was the creation of some Evil Scientist and only works on Fury for some reason.
Still the number of WWII era characters that are still alive is pretty small. Nothing to worry about, really. Especially the one who's lives have been extended through science or magic and dont need the Sliding scale. The scalre mostly affects characters created in the Silver Age. And again, it the minor pop references that are ingnored not major plot points.
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The folks who watch the films greatly out number those who buy the books. And probably wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic book, no matter how much they enjoyed the film.
IIRC, Fury's formula wasn't created by the government, it was the creation of some Evil Scientist and only works on Fury for some reason.
Still the number of WWII era characters that are still alive is pretty small. Nothing to worry about, really. Especially the one who's lives have been extended through science or magic and dont need the Sliding scale. The scalre mostly affects characters created in the Silver Age. And again, it the minor pop references that are ingnored not major plot points.
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Well, I'm an aging fannoy, and I don't have a problem with being older than my heroes. As I said upthread, I just excersize suspension of disbelief.
However, one of the things that I really liked about the Spider-Girl/M2 universe was that my heroes had aged with me.
However, one of the things that I really liked about the Spider-Girl/M2 universe was that my heroes had aged with me.
I'm 52 and I do the same. I've no intererst in a 53 year old Batman or Spider-man. The key part is "jaded" not aging or even fanboy. Accepting the conventions of the genre goes a long way in curbing jadedness. One of the first steps is aknowledging that we are seeing the "middle" of these characters careers. The end is far away and isn't needed.
I think you can get them in the John Byrne Hulk Visionary TPB.
I remember reading that for Charles, the Korean War was the one. Remember reading it recently too - X-Men Legacy stories I think. The issue was just past the point that the Professor is shot and Exodus escapes with his body and puts him in stasis. When Exodus tries to enter the unconscious Xavier's mind, he finds he can't due to mental controls that were built-in in Xavier's head. It gets mentioned that Xavier had a very traumatic time during the Korean War where he was reading everybody's thoughts as they were dying, getting hurt, cowering in fear, aggressive etc. At least that's where I remember the Korean war wrt Xavier from.
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Impossible.
You can trace that back to Stan Lee (If Steve Englehart is to be believed/remembers this correctly) - back in the early 1970s, Lee decided that rather than the characters continuing to progress through their lives, the marvel universe would now have the illusion of change rather than actual change.
What does that even mean? Marvel doesn't have a good continuity? Marvel's policy is that it's characters live and participate in the "real world" and that has been so for a long time. I'm not sure where you're getting a "Timeless" feel from. That's more DC's thing.
Actually it seems like EJA struggles with trying to reconcile current state of various continuities into his own personal versions of them and becomes disgruntled when he can't. Almost nearly all of his post has to do with "continuity glitches" or "problems" that he has a problem with. It's amusing but frustrating to read over and over.
^ Exactly and EJA I'm not ridiculing you, I'm simply making an observation about your posting history.
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