Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Turtletrekker]

Some Agent Carter info from SDCC.

"I can tell you you'll get Edwin Jarvis ,who is Howard Stark's butler and is an important force in Tony Stark's life," said Stephen McFeely. "He'll be an important ally for Peggy, and as being an emissary for Howard Stark, he might have access to tech."

McFeely and fellow Executive Producer and writer Christopher Markus said that Agent Carter is being approached as an "8 hour movie" with "one story, one bad guy, with lots of twists and turns." The duo said that while Hydra is on the table for use in the series, the fact that Arnim Zola revealed what Hydra did after World War 2 in Captain America: The Winter Soldier it changes how they would approach it in the post-WW2 era of Agent Carter. They did say that Agent Carter would feature a major Marvel villain, but balked at naming who.

I particularly like that last sentence.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

My hope is for Madame Hydra. I also wouldn't be opposed to Baron Zemo the father (with Baron Zemo the son appearing in Agents of SHIELD). Strikes me as unlikely (more likely a Captain America 3 villain), but I wouldn't be opposed to it.

 

[Fist McStrongpunch]

I'm hoping for Zemo.

 

[bbjeg]

I guess I should post this here too. A spoiler about the post credit scene of Guardians of the Galaxy.

Spoiler: GotG post credits scene.

Howard the Duck will be making an appearance.

http://www.businessinsider.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-howard-the-duck-2014-7

 

[Relayer1]

Are any of the pre Iron Man Marvel movies looked at as part of the MCU or at least not contradictory to it ? Blade or any of the Punisher movies ?

I understand the most recent Punisher was actually made by Marvel Studio's.

 

[Skywalker]

Are any of the pre Iron Man Marvel movies looked at as part of the MCU or at least not contradictory to it ? Blade or any of the Punisher movies ?

I understand the most recent Punisher was actually made by Marvel Studio's.

No. The Marvel Cinematic Universe began with Iron Man. The most recent Punisher movie, Punisher: War Zone, was actually a Lionsgate production.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Just to add even more clarification, Marvel Studios began with Iron Man as well.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Are any of the pre Iron Man Marvel movies looked at as part of the MCU or at least not contradictory to it ? Blade or any of the Punisher movies ?

I understand the most recent Punisher was actually made by Marvel Studio's.

No. The Marvel Cinematic Universe began with Iron Man. The most recent Punisher movie, Punisher: War Zone, was actually a Lionsgate production.

Just to add even more clarification, Marvel Studios began with Iron Man as well.

Aren't the Hulk films sort of part of the MCU?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yes. All of the other movies are "Made in association with Marvel Entertainment".

 

[Turtletrekker]

Just to add even more clarification, Marvel Studios began with Iron Man as well.

Aren't the Hulk films sort of part of the MCU?

Just the Norton one. Lee's movie was produced by Universal, not Marvel. As for continuity, among other things, the origins in the two films are completely different and the fate of Glenn Talbot in Lee's movie is incompatable with the MCU.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Are any of the pre Iron Man Marvel movies looked at as part of the MCU or at least not contradictory to it ? Blade or any of the Punisher movies ?

I understand the most recent Punisher was actually made by Marvel Studio's.

No. The Marvel Cinematic Universe began with Iron Man. The most recent Punisher movie, Punisher: War Zone, was actually a Lionsgate production.

Just to add even more clarification, Marvel Studios began with Iron Man as well.

Aren't the Hulk films sort of part of the MCU?

Only The Incredible Hulk with Edward Norton. That movie deliberately alters the origin story from the Eric Bana film and the Bana film is now clearly incompatible with the MCU since Agents of SHIELD. I think Marvel made the film assuming you were familiar with Hulk's origin (so they weren't opposed to you having seen the Bana fil), but that's the extent it's connected (i.e., not at all beyond featuring the Hulk).

You can just check out this list if you are still uncertain.

 

[Agent Richard07]

When I saw the Norton film, it looked like it could have worked as a sequel to Lee's movie.

 

[CaptainCanada]

They recount his origin in a way that's entirely different from what happened in Lee's movie.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I saw reviews that saw it as a loose sequel, but, yeah, that idea doesn't hold up to close examination.

 

[Enterprise1701]

I saw reviews that saw it as a loose sequel, but, yeah, that idea doesn't hold up to close examination.

Agreed. I'm honestly exasperated by all these people who continue to insist what is obviously not true.

 

[Dream]

I saw reviews that saw it as a loose sequel, but, yeah, that idea doesn't hold up to close examination.

The two Hulks have two completely different origins. It is like the reviewers never even saw both movies.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Going down to South America is completely consistent with the way the Ang Lee film ended. "Loose sequel" is accurate, as long as you don't forget the word loose.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Yeah, pretty much. It's more accurate to say The Incredible Hulk is not an origin story while The Hulk is. But for those who don't pay attention to details, it's possible to watch both movies without being confused.

But, ultimately, they're separate continuities.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

But, ultimately, they're separate continuities.

Absolutely.

 

[Marsden]

Just the Norton one. Lee's movie was produced by Universal, not Marvel. As for continuity, among other things, the origins in the two films are completely different and the fate of Glenn Talbot in Lee's movie is incompatable with the MCU.

Not just Talbot. Lee's Hulk movie was incompatible with just about everything. I'm just going to say, giant green dogs.

Now I see I'm late to the dog pile. That's what I get for hitting quote before the last page.