Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Nerys Myk]

Having never watched anything she's been in, I've no preconceived notions

 

[Jayson1]

Not even Alias? I thought everyone must have seen at least the first season or so of Alias before they changed up the premise. Big time mistake for the show.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Not even Alias? I thought everyone must have seen at least the first season or so of Alias before they changed up the premise. Big time mistake for the show.

Nope.

 

[Jayson1]

You should try it sometime. It's pretty good and actually the action was pretty impressive IMO for network tv at the time.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I need to watch those shows. In my head when I think of her I still always go to 3 things. Alias is one. I think that will always be the number one thing I think of with her. The other is 13 going on 30 and Dude, Where is my Car. Daredevil as well but even then I can only think of the playground fake fight.

You're thinking of Jennifer Garner, not Julia Garner. Two very different actresses.

 

[Jayson1]

OMG. I am just now noticing it is a different actor. I did think Jennifer Garner was in the movie.

 

[JD]

Have you not seen any of the footage or pictures of her? She looks and sounds nothing like Jennifer Garner.

I started on this within the Ironheart thread, but it really belongs here. Trying to detail all the open narrative questions from the MCU.

Phase 3:

• Spider-Man: Homecoming: Introduction of Mac Gargan/Scorpion in post-credit scene. I blame Sony. Still, this could be (finally) addressed in Brand New Day.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he's coming back somewhere, probably Brand New Day, but I'm not 100% sure.

Phase 4

• TF&TWS: Sharon Carter has been MIA now for years.

I really don't get way this wasn't addressed in Brave New World.

• Shang-Chi: Neither the post-credit scene regarding the Ten Rings nor Xu Xialing have amounted to anything. Since we know Shang-Chi is in Doomsday, there's some room to address this.

I'm pretty sure we're getting a Shang-Chi 2, so I'm assuming it'll be addressed there.

• Eternals: The entire ending of this movie is a giant cliffhanger, to say nothing of the two post-credit scenes. I don't expect any payoff of anything here, unfortunately.

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever find out what happened to the Eternals.

• Spiderman: No Way Home: Introduction of the scrap of Symbiote hasn't amounted to anything. Again, I feel like this was Sony's idea, and never fit into Feige's plan.

I had assumed this would be addressed in Brand New Day, but with the collapse of Sony's Universe of Spider-Man Character or whatever they called it, I could see them just forgetting it ever happened.

• Moon Knight: The post-credit introduction of Jake Lockley sure made it look like they expected a Season 2 - which we will never get. Maybe he'll pop up in Daredevil or something, though.

I doubt we'll ever see this followed up on.

• Multiverse of Madness: Not sure the point of introducing Clea, unless she's just going to be dating Steven Strange when we see him next.

The reference to Incursions feels like set up for it and Secret Wars, so I'm pretty sure we'll see her there.

• Love and Thunder: Hercules. Enough said. Frankly, unless we get a Thor 5, I don't see how this could be paid off, since it seems too big to be shunted into Doomsday.

I'm optimistic we'll see him again, somewhere.

• She-Hulk: Why did they introduce Skaar again?

I'm hoping we'll see Banner again at some point.

Phase 5:

• GOTG 3: We were promised more Peter Quill (I think the first post-credit scene, with the new Guardians, doesn't count as a true promise).

Yeah.

• Agatha All Along: Sure seems like Billy finding Tommy is something meant to be paid off.\

I'm optimistic we'll see some kind of follow up since Agatha All Along seemed to do fairly well.

• Ironheart: Cliffhanger ending that cries out for some sense of narrative closure regarding Riri's deal with Mephisto. Oh, and setting up Strange Academy.

I'm sure hoping Ironheart did well enough to get some of follow up, but from the way people were talking in the show's thread, it doesn't seem likely. I wouldn't be surprised if Mephisto still shows up somewhere else at some point though.

She looks fine to me

Yeah, she looks great to me, but I'm apparently a really horrible judge of this kind of thing, because there were a lot of movies or shows that I thought had some of the best effects around, and then people I'll see people complaining about how they're some of the worst they've ever seen.

Also wouldn't the amount of movies that use CGI also be a issue? It's kind of like expansion in baseball. More teams you add the weaker the pitching staffs become and soon you got pitchers in the MLB who would have been in the minors or out of baseball in years past because their simply was not enough jobs to go around. My guess is some movies and shows must get the lesser talented types because the best CGI artist might be working on a more high profile movie or show.

I think some of the effects companies might starting to work on cutting back on crunch so they might be willing to accept slightly lesser effects in order to not overwork their people quite so much.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Spider-Man: Homecoming: Introduction of Mac Gargan/Scorpion in post-credit scene. I blame Sony. Still, this could be (finally) addressed in Brand New Day.

Wasn't Gargan introduced in the movie proper?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Wasn't Gargan introduced in the movie proper?

Yes.

 

[Christopher]

I don't really see the point of that Gargan scene as being a cliffhanger setup for Scorpion or whatever. I see it as a resolution to the cliffhanger of Toomes knowing Spidey's identity, showing that Toomes is a decent enough man to protect Peter's secret. So it's tying off a thread rather than setting one up. It just happens to be Gargan because Gargan was already a character earlier in the movie.

I mean, of course it was possible that a sequel could've brought back Gargan and made him the Scorpion, but that doesn't mean that setting that up was the sole purpose of that specific scene, certainly not in the way the Eddie Brock post-credit scene in No Way Home was blatantly meant to set up a Venom appearance and was otherwise profoundly pointless. The more important part of the scene is the closure it brings to the Toomes/Peter question.

 

[DigificWriter]

I no longer explicitly rank stuff, but do still have "favorites", and am in the mood right now to share my (current) list of Favorite MCU Movies and Characters.

Favorite MCU Movies (in release order):
* Iron Man
* Iron Man 2
* Iron Man 3
* Black Panther
* Doctor Strange
* Captain Marvel
* Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
* Eternals
* Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
* Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
* The Marvels

Favorite MCU Characters (in no particular order):
* Tony Stark
* T'Challa
* Stephen Strange
* Shang-Chi
* Namor
* Shuri
* Pepper Potts
* Makarri
* Carol Danvers
* Wanda Maximoff

 

[The Nth Doctor]

We get another glimpse of Wonder Man in Disney and Hulu's coming this year sizzle reel:

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[Tuskin38]

Doomsday filming leaks

Spoiler

They appear to be doing scenes in the TVA

Elyse ⨠shoalsandsuch (@shoalsandsuch)

Avengers: Doomsday is shooting in the TVA #Doomsday

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[JD]

With all of the stuff going on that makes sense.

 

[Aragorn]

I'll list the MCU movies I don't like ( ** 1/2 or less out of ****) since that's a shorter list. Haven't seen Eternals, Quantumania or Wakanda Forever.

Black Widow
Captain America: Brave New World
Captain Marvel
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
The Marvels
Thor: The Dark World
Thor: Love and Thunder

Brave New World and Love and Thunder would be at the bottom, significantly lower than the rest of them (which I don't hate but find most of them underwhelming or disappointing), and along side Secret Invasion.

The Incredible Hulk and Doctor Strange are borderline good and then the rest are a lot better.

 

[eschaton]

With all of the stuff going on that makes sense.

With Tom Hiddleston returning, it's pretty much impossible we don't see the TVA, since that would mean Loki leaving his throne, which we are led to believe would be very, very bad.

 

[JD]

Yeah, that was my thought, but I wasn't sure if I could mention Loki without coding it, and I didn't feel like doing that.

 

[theenglish]

Yeah, that was my thought, but I wasn't sure if I could mention Loki without coding it, and I didn't feel like doing that.

Well, we know Loki is in the movie and the series is a couple of years old now.

I think it is also possible that Loki creates a variant of himself, or pulls a variant out of the multiverse to hang on to the tree or to go to work at whatever needs to be done in the movie. That said, I think we've all expected something to happen with the multiverse since the Secret Wars title was first uttered. It would actually be better at this point for the MCU to end the Multiverse with these upcoming movies and move on to new ideas.

 

[Mudd]

With Tom Hiddleston returning, it's pretty much impossible we don't see the TVA, since that would mean Loki leaving his throne, which we are led to believe would be very, very bad.

Spoiler

Could be a variant. The guy we saw in the series, after all, is not the guy we followed in the movies to begin with.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

It would actually be better at this point for the MCU to end the Multiverse with these upcoming movies and move on to new ideas.

I think that was always the intention. The Jonathan Majors situation changed how it was going to conclude but I always got the sense that the multivere stories would come to a conclusion with the two Avengers films and then focus on the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and a few lingerers. After all, this is the Multiverse Saga, so it makes sense all of it would be done by the conclusion.

I won't be surprised if there are more mutliverse shenanigans in the future but they will happen far less frequently. Either way, I anticipate a completely different direction with the next saga.