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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I think it's because they aren't a team yet. We will see them become a team by the end of the movie.

It's probably more than that. As has been discussed in the last few posts, Feige himself has said that it will become clear after the movie's release.
 
I liked the Thunderbolts trailer. Watching it made me realise that the MCU has made me invested in Yelena and Red Guardian's relationship, even if the BW movie is kind of meh. Of course having Bucky there is great, and hopefully US Agent can be better now that he's not stuck in a terribly written mini series.

That said, I'm still irritated that the Black Widow movie ruined Taskmaster. The comic version is great, a very dangerous but entertaining character with a lot of personality that uses heroes and villains moves against them. The movie version is a mute non-character that fights sometimes using moves that vaguely resemble how other characters fight. Ghost also just sucks, the comic version was boring and the Ant-Man 2 movie is just a useless brat (of the few MCU villains to actually survive past their first appearance, it sucks that Ghost was one of them).

Overall I'm definitely excited for the movie after seeing the trailer, even if it has a few mediocre character choices it has the potential to be an entertaining movie if done well.
 
Can someone explain to me why it's Thunderbolts* in all official marketing, please? Does the asterisk go to a disclaimer about how loads of other companies own the name or somesuch?

As everyone says, there's no confirmed answer.

My (wishful thinking) theory is this isn't the actual Thunderbolts roster, it's just the characters who are brought together to be the Thunderbolts at the start of the movie. This team will split apart over Val's machinations and then the people who don't decide to support her will become the real Thunderbolts after taking on new characters that haven't been revealed yet.
 
Found my previous post on the matter. That io9 article specifically says Ford is in Thunderbolts*. The only thing I got wrong is that the news is from Comic-Con, not D23.
I think that perhaps the author of that article simply made a mistake, possibly confused by Ross's nickname and the title of the the movie following the movie that he's actually appearing in. Here is an article from yesterday from the same site that is specifically about the cast of Thunderbolts*, and Ford is not even mentioned.

 
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It's probably more than that. As has been discussed in the last few posts, Feige himself has said that it will become clear after the movie's release.
One theory I've seen is that at the end the title will change to Dark Avengers, but I'm not sure if I believe it. If they were going to go with Dark Avengers, I think would have gone with that from the beginning, since an Avengers title is going to draw in a lot more non-comics fans than Thunderbolts would, since the team is pretty much unknown outside of comics readers.
 
One theory I've seen is that at the end the title will change to Dark Avengers, but I'm not sure if I believe it. If they were going to go with Dark Avengers, I think would have gone with that from the beginning, since an Avengers title is going to draw in a lot more non-comics fans than Thunderbolts would, since the team is pretty much unknown outside of comics readers.
I hope they don't call themselves "Dark Avengers". That's almost as ridiculous as villain teams with "evil" in their names.
 
It's probably more than that. As has been discussed in the last few posts, Feige himself has said that it will become clear after the movie's release.

I'm going to guess that they become the official Avengers--we've had Secret Invasion so now it's time for Dark Reign.
 
Dark Avengers was used as a title but the characters themselves only used the term Avengers.
Uhg. I remember when the West Coast Avengers team would actually refer to themselves as the "West Coast Avengers" rather than simply calling themselves "Avengers". As a fan, I always felt that putting that qualifier in front of the team's name was no different than calling themselves "The Second Rate Avengers".
 
Breaking news! Scarlett Johansson returns to the MCU... as an executive producer on Thunderbolts*.


No doubt due to this movie seeming to be in large part a sequel to the Black Widow movie, which she was also a executive producer on.

Good for her. Disney screwed her over with their pandemic panic release of Black Widow on Disney Plus. This way, she gets another paycheck out of the whole deal.
 
Uhg. I remember when the West Coast Avengers team would actually refer to themselves as the "West Coast Avengers" rather than simply calling themselves "Avengers". As a fan, I always felt that putting that qualifier in front of the team's name was no different than calling themselves "The Second Rate Avengers".
What does that make the Great Lakes Avengers? :lol:
 
Uhg. I remember when the West Coast Avengers team would actually refer to themselves as the "West Coast Avengers" rather than simply calling themselves "Avengers". As a fan, I always felt that putting that qualifier in front of the team's name was no different than calling themselves "The Second Rate Avengers".

To that I counter with the Justice League Europe, who always referred to themselves as the JLE and were awesome. If there are multiple teams under one "brand" it makes sense for them to refer to themselves with unique names, and if there are major difference in geographic locations thats an easy difference to use to identify the teams.

What does that make the Great Lakes Avengers?
:lol:

Forgotten by almost everyone since that horrible Squirrel Girl reboot basically shoved them into a permanent limbo? Even the MCU just stole Mr. Immortal's name for some crappy OC unconnected to the comic character instead of using the actual character, and that was in She-Hulk which could easily have justified using the a version similar to the comic version of the character.
 
Uhg. I remember when the West Coast Avengers team would actually refer to themselves as the "West Coast Avengers" rather than simply calling themselves "Avengers". As a fan, I always felt that putting that qualifier in front of the team's name was no different than calling themselves "The Second Rate Avengers".

I don't see why, since it's just a geographical designation. If there's more than one Avengers team, it makes sense for them to specify where they're based, just for clarity's sake.

Breaking news! Scarlett Johansson returns to the MCU... as an executive producer on Thunderbolts*.
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No doubt due to this movie seeming to be in large part a sequel to the Black Widow movie, which she was also a executive producer on.

In that case, it's probably not so much that she's "returning" in the sense of actually participating in the production, and more that she's contractually entitled to get a bunch of money deposited into her bank account if they make a movie centering on the BW characters. That's often the only thing the "executive producer" credit means.
 
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