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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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Are we all agreed that Chris Hemsworth will return as Thor for the next two AVENGERS films? Who do you expect to see in the lineup?
Pretty sure he will. I imagine he wouldn't want to leave things the way they are with Thor Love and Thunder. Could be his departure from the role.
I expect everyone is coming back. Black Widow, original Cap, all the Spidermen (even Scott Leva), Iron Man, Deadpool and Wolverine.
Remember Infinity War had that sweet scene with Iron Man, Star Lord and Spiderman together? I bet they'll go for something like that again with Deadpool and Starlord, Cap and Wolverine etc.
I feel like RDJ as Doom could actually overshadow the actual Fantastic Four characters and their introduction.
Also seeing the images of their 60s take on 'world of tomorrow' and realized kinda makes me want to see them stay there and not be in 'our universe' but MCU-fied.
Also seeing the images of their 60s take on 'world of tomorrow' and realized kinda makes me want to see them stay there and not be in 'our universe' but MCU-fied.
They didn't say he would be in Fantastic Four (unless I missed that), just the Avengers movies, though I could see him being in a post credits scene or something.
Oh my bad then. I thought he was being introduced for the Fantastic Four.
I am really disappointed in the Dr. Doom news--I can see that Disney is doing this for financial reasons, but creatively it is a bull###t move.
That's true. The focus this weekend has been about the two main upcoming films and the big upcoming tentpole films. D23 makes sense for filling in the details of the other films and shows.
Well, that's different though. In Jackman's case, it's just another iteration of Wolverine. But with Downey, he's playing an entirely different (and highly iconic) character, who appears to be a variant of an entirely different character. That's the sticking point.
And honestly, I'm still not sure how I feel about it. I see what they're trying for and it could work, but we won't know for certain until see it play out.
Which is going to make the next two years insufferable because people are going to continuously complain about the casting, regardless of what we may actually get. The speculation is going to be sky high before we even see a trailer.
Steve Rogers as Captain America needs to remain a thing of the past. His time in the role has come and gone.
Agreed. The FF are more of a child of a specific period of history, almost more than any other Marvel character.
I want a 60's FF movie to be a creative success, but your reasoning is on point. Unfortunately, Marvel/Disney thinks like the worst Marvel fanboy who is so high on RDJ (as Iron Man) that they lack the will or any sort of inventive spirit to create something new, and let the past be the past, including actors within the same franchise. Unlike Chris Evans appearing in the FF movies, then moving on to the MCU, which--obviously--were different studios and unrelated film universes, RDJ was a major player in the same MCU, and next to no one is going to forget his Iron Man (and hope he will return as that character--a distraction).
But as you say, Marvel is bringing RDJ back for the financial reasons, now that they've suffered serious bombs, but its as creatively empty a decision as it would be to have Daniel Craig return to the Bond movies playing another major character after bowing out as Bond, as if audiences are just going to gloss over that.
...and so it begins the prejudging, right on cue.
I think that is a really good analogy. It is like in decades past when studios would stunt cast actors from a program or movie in the reboot as a stunt. I'm thinking spots like Buster Crabbe in Buck Rogers, or Glaser and Soul in the 2004 Starsky and Hutch, or Richard Roundtree in the 2000 Shaft.
It's insufferable.
Would it have been so hard for Disney to cast somebody who's actually eastern European for an iconic eastern European villain? Or at least somebody European? Alexander or Bill Skarsgard jump immediately to mind as good choices for Doom and I'm sure there's plenty even better.
"It's Tony Stark... but not!" is such a disservice to Victor Von Doom.
ETA: Also, why would you cast one of the most famous actors, the face of your universe, who's obviously been cast because you think people want to see that actor again, for a character whose iconic image is that his face is completely covered by a mask? Tony Stark was one thing, because he's only masked up in the suit, but Doom is always masked. This is gonna be worse than Julian McMahon from the 00s in that regard.
"It's Tony Stark... but not!" is such a disservice to Victor Von Doom.
ETA: Also, why would you cast one of the most famous actors, the face of your universe, who's obviously been cast because you think people want to see that actor again, for a character whose iconic image is that his face is completely covered by a mask? Tony Stark was one thing, because he's only masked up in the suit, but Doom is always masked. This is gonna be worse than Julian McMahon from the 00s in that regard.
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This happened before, they wouldn't cast actual East European/Romanian actors to play Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Elizabeth Olsen is great, even though her actual perfect casting would have been as MCU Jean Grey (if they could've done X-Men movies in the MCU back then)
Maybe RDJ will have the integrity to wear the mask.