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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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We still don't know who Giancarlo Esposito will be playing in Brave New World, but we now have a better sense of what type of character he'll be playing:

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In my other life, I’m a real badass, and you’ve seen me play a little bit of that intellectually as Gus Fring, but when you see me in the MCU, you’re going to see a badass, and I’m excited for that. Acting is using every part of your body, your emotions, your senses, your feelings, to portray something. But you haven’t seen me use my body in a way that I’ll be using it. The MCU’s exciting; I can’t tell you who I’m playing, but you’re going to be excited when you see.​
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Whoever the character is, Esposito makes him sound like he's more of a badass than Gus Fring and that's truly terrifying. :eek:
 
It's been speculated for awhile now that the film may end with their universe collapsing and the team fleeing into our universe, following the ongoing theme of cosmic incursions. That means a period piece that's not in our past makes perfect sense.
 
Captaindemotion said:
So if this report is to be believed, FF will be a period piece but not necessarily in our past. I’m not sure if this means not “our” as in the real world, past (which I would’ve thought is a given) or the MCU’s past: https://www.empireonline.com/movies...FEaSIWwmra3HkvG4Vs_aem_6mbdbky7OE-wq1sr6jgDYw
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That article quotes Feige as pretty much explicitly confirming it will take place in a different timeline that the main MCU 616/Sacred Timeline. To doubt that that will be the case, at this point, would be irrational.

And, thank goodness, I say.
 
Very glad to hear the FF will be a period piece set in the 1960s.That is the environment where the concept worked best, so the production--at least with that decision--is off to a great start.

Esposito: always a powerful actor, and his addition to Cap4 is truly exciting. If he's playing against Mackie's Captain America (or perhaps working with him?), that should be some fascinating chemistry between the two.
 
Since Esposito usually plays bad guys, I'd say there's a decent chance he's a bad guy again here.

After all the theorizing, it's nice to get confirmation that Fantastic Four is a period piece.
 
Mixed feelings about the period piece thing. On the one hand, the skyline in the "Happy 4-4 Day!" poster implies it's set in an advanced alternate fantasy version of New York City, which suggests that the FF have been established for years and advanced their world's technology. Not only does that give me what I've been hoping for, a well-established FF long past their uninteresting origin story, but it sidesteps the "Reed Richards is Useless" problem with his tech never making it to the market or affecting regular life.

But I'm not sure how I feel about the FF coming into our world from an alternate one, since then they'd be newcomers having to establish themselves, which pretty much makes it an origin story again and takes away what makes the FF distinctive, their role as the respected first family of the superhero world.

Also, as I've said before, I don't see the appeal of making the FF a period piece. As with Star Trek, they're a series defined by being cutting-edge and forward-looking relative to the time the stories are made, so wanting to lean into nostalgia for the '60s origins is missing the point. Although I guess the counterargument there is that if they were what I feel they should be, heroes pushing present-day technology forward into a sci-fi future, it would make them too much like Tony Stark was in the MCU, and put them in a niche that Wakanda has somewhat taken over in Tony's wake. So maybe bringing in the period/alternate-world element is to make them distinctive rather than just a rehash of Stark Industries. It still feels like a compromise, though.
 
Christopher said:
But I'm not sure how I feel about the FF coming into our world from an alternate one, since then they'd be newcomers having to establish themselves, which pretty much makes it an origin story again and takes away what makes the FF distinctive, their role as the respected first family of the superhero world.
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Is there any indication that'll be happening in this movie? Of course a crossover at some point is inevitable, but dragging them into the present day at the end could be overly reminiscent of The First Avenger.


Christopher said:
As with Star Trek, they're a series defined by being cutting-edge and forward-looking relative to the time the stories are made, so wanting to lean into nostalgia for the '60s origins is missing the point.
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Of course, a big problem with that is that the global climate crisis is a far more immediate problem than it was in the 60s, and any modern-day scientific superhero team should probably be tackling it head-on. Anything else, like making a moon base or (ugh) a Mars mission, is facile by comparison. (Not to mention that The Marvels introduced a frickin' present-day Earth orbit space station, without bothering to clarify what organization even built the thing.) However, showing fictional superheroes solving the climate crisis would cheapen the seriousness of the real-world problem. It's a bit of storytelling Kobayashi Maru.

So, yeah, a groovy 60s period piece setting, when the ideas of a moon base or computers small enough to fit in one's pocket were still far-out, seems like a no-brainer.
 
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Gaith said:
Is there any indication that'll be happening in this movie? Of course a crossover at some point is inevitable, but dragging them into the present day at the end could be overly reminiscent of The First Avenger
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Agreed, and one would hope Marvel would not wish to repeat a very rare, character-specific fate (to John and Jane Q. Movie goer, the idea of a person from the past brought to the present day would only bring Captain America to mind, no matter how many times that ever happened in the comics). It would be a fresh, creative turn to have the FF's exploits occur in a world that's not overflowing with super-beings to the point where its all one, big meh-inducer.



However, showing fictional superheroes solving the climate crisis would cheapen the seriousness of the real-world problem.
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Much like the idiotic plot of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, where Superman arbitrarily decides to rid the world of nuclear weapons, when that was a situation with no real world end in sight.

So, yeah, a groovy 60s period piece setting, when the ideas of a moon base or computers small enough to fit in one's pocket were still far-out, seems like a no-brainer.
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Indeed.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
We still don't know who Giancarlo Esposito will be playing in Brave New World, but we now have a better sense of what type of character he'll be playing:

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In my other life, I’m a real badass, and you’ve seen me play a little bit of that intellectually as Gus Fring, but when you see me in the MCU, you’re going to see a badass, and I’m excited for that. Acting is using every part of your body, your emotions, your senses, your feelings, to portray something. But you haven’t seen me use my body in a way that I’ll be using it. The MCU’s exciting; I can’t tell you who I’m playing, but you’re going to be excited when you see.​
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Whoever the character is, Esposito makes him sound like he's more of a badass than Gus Fring and that's truly terrifying. :eek:
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Who is this?

Esposito does a great job but this sounds over the top even for Marvel.
 
Captaindemotion said:
David Harbour has marked his completion of shooting on Thunderbolts by posting this rather cool (IMHO) soviet-style propaganda poster of his character
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Anyone here who knows their Cyrillic? I want to translate what's on that poster
 
fireproof78 said:
Who is this?

Esposito does a great job but this sounds over the top even for Marvel.
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He will be a fine addition to Cap4. You can check out some of his better performances in Do the Right Thing (1989), Malcolm X (1992), Ali (2001; nevermind the horrible miscasting of Ali), or The Box (2007) among many strong performances.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
He will be a fine addition to Cap4. You can check out some of his better performances in Do the Right Thing (1989), Malcolm X (1992), Ali (2001; nevermind the horrible miscasting of Ali), or The Box (2007) among many strong performances.
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I liked his performance in Mandalorian well enough.
 
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