Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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Just read an article about She-Hulk from Screen Rant (I know, shame on me).
anyway, they pointed out that the show’s logo is formatted in this way: She/Hulk, which makes it look more like her pronouns than her name.
I find that pretty interesting and clever in a very meta kind of way. And meta is something quite innate to her Comic book series afaik?
anyway, they pointed out that the show’s logo is formatted in this way: She/Hulk, which makes it look more like her pronouns than her name.
I find that pretty interesting and clever in a very meta kind of way. And meta is something quite innate to her Comic book series afaik?
Well, by a literal definition of "innate," i.e. present at birth, then no, because the early She-Hulk comics in the '70s were pretty conventional. But yeah, ever since John Byrne's work with the character in the '80s, metatextuality has been an integral part of She-Hulk comics. Less so in the more recent stuff than in Byrne, but still present.
Like, in Byrne's run, She-Hulk knew she was in a comic book and constantly talked to the readers, argued with Byrne, strode across panel borders, tore through the pages to take a shortcut across an ad, etc. But in the Dan Slott run, the meta elements make more sense in-universe -- e.g. Jennifer uses in-universe Marvel Comics, based on the "real" heroes' adventures, as legal precedents for superhero law. So it's the same kind of metatextuality that's been there since the early Fantastic Four when Stan & Jack appeared in-story as their in-universe counterparts publishing the comic adaptation of the FF's adventures.
I expect the MCU series will go more for the Slott style of meta rather than the full-on Byrne style -- winking at the fourth wall rather than bulldozing it. They probably don't want to break their reality too much.
Some VFX artists refuse to work with Marvel
https://www.thegamer.com/marvel-mcu-vfx-artists-deadlines-crunch-stress/
It reminds me of that time when RDJ and Samuel L Jackson did that bit at the Oscars. They really sold it
https://www.thegamer.com/marvel-mcu-vfx-artists-deadlines-crunch-stress/
It reminds me of that time when RDJ and Samuel L Jackson did that bit at the Oscars. They really sold it
I'm assuming they will leave that "bulldozing" to Deadpool.
She-Hulk’s Tatiana Maslany won at least one for Orphan Black. Very well deserved.
Like I said, I knew I was forgetting someone. Forgive me, Tatiana.
Get your salt shakers handy, ladies and gentlemen, because I take this one with a few grains of salt, but reportedly, there are plans to bring Chloe Bennett as Quake into the MCU. There will be nods to her Agents of SHIELD backstory, but the show itself will be treated as part of the multiverse. This is apparently being done with the blessing of the Agents of SHIELD creative team.
I'm down with this. In fact, while watching Loki season 1, I thought it would have been a neat aside if they showed Loki creating the Agents of SHIELD timeline to in part make up for his killing a good man in Agent Coulson.
I also recently read an article in which Ian DeCaestecker said that he has no real interest in returning to the character of Leopold fitz. He likes to believe that he and Jemma settled down far away from the crazy life and raised their kids.
https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marve...-for-rumored-mcu-debut-a194887#gs.f93e.70z1h6
I'm down with this. In fact, while watching Loki season 1, I thought it would have been a neat aside if they showed Loki creating the Agents of SHIELD timeline to in part make up for his killing a good man in Agent Coulson.
I also recently read an article in which Ian DeCaestecker said that he has no real interest in returning to the character of Leopold fitz. He likes to believe that he and Jemma settled down far away from the crazy life and raised their kids.
https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marve...-for-rumored-mcu-debut-a194887#gs.f93e.70z1h6
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So, probably not an Inhuman.
*Que X-Men animated series theme music.*So, probably not an Inhuman.
I knew it was bullshit as soon as I read "This is apparently being done with the blessing of the Agents of SHIELD creative team." The people who made AOS have moved on to other things years ago and have no say on what does and doesn't happen with any characters that appeared in it.
Seeing Daisy back would be great (and hopefully Melinda May will soon follow), but "multiversing" AoS and the Netflix shows would be a disappointment. So I'll hold out hope that the first part is true but not the second part. Though I won't be surprised if the whole thing is true.
Although I admit, after seeing Multiverse of Madness yesterday, it is hard to reconcile its portrayal of the Darkhold with AoS's. Not so much its appearance, which is easy to reconcile since it's a magical tome, but the way it operates. The one in the movie was described as a transcription of a specific set of spells, while the one in AoS seemed to change its contents depending on what the reader sought from it.
It seems to me that the first couple of seasons of AoS, the ones that tied directly into the movies and even set up their events (like the arc of Coulson's team tracking down Dr. List and Loki's scepter so Maria Hill could tell the Avengers where to find them), are harder to justify as an alternate timeline than the later seasons that were more divorced from the movies. But I guess it could be a timeline where events just went very similarly for a while.
If this does turn out to be true for AoS and the Netflix heroes, does it also go for Agent Carter, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, etc.?
It's believable enough (or maybe we're just desperate enough to believe it...) that it seems genuinely possible. Especially since the Marvel panel is on Saturday. An early leak?
I really wanted Mobius to drop a line about Coulson surviving. Maybe we'll get something like that in season two?
Honestly, I don't blame him. I think Leo and Jemma had very rough character arcs and they deserve to live happily ever after...
...that said, I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about watching some new show about two time-traveling scientists who got stuck in Victorian London and there was some big conspiracy about the hows and whys they got stuck there and then. Oh, and the two scientists were played by Iain DeCaestecker and Elizabeth Henstridge, which left me hoping that there was going to be a surprise twist by the end of the season that the show was a stealth Agents of SHIELD spin-off. Sadly, I woke up before finding out.
I'd watch the hell out of that.
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I largely agree about Agents of SHIELD, but placing it elsewhere in the multiverse means I don't have to do any mental gymnastics to explain season 6 and 7.
I still really don't see any inherent contradictions with the Darkhold, simply because the Darkhold will do whatever the Darkhold needs to do corrupt those around it to it's bidding. I actually thought the nod to all the Darkhold in every universe being destroyed was a nod to the Agents of SHIELD Darkhold.
Agreed 1,000% about Melinda May.
I really want to see that show now.
I find it easy to interpret season 6 as a year post-Snap, when people are still in denial and trying to go about their normal lives without thinking about it, as opposed to the despair seen four years later in Endgame. The story arc is insular enough that it doesn't show much of the larger world anyway. And yes, the whole team avoided being Blipped, but then, so did pretty much the entire Iron Man cast and the original Avengers, so it's statistically possible.
As for season 7, the ending dovetails rather smoothly with Endgame, even implying that Fitz's time travel tech was a forerunner of what the Avengers used in the movie. (Although it does leave the question of why the SHIELD team didn't use time travel to stop Thanos years before the Avengers did.)
I guess the main reason for keeping AoS separate from the MCU is all the world-changing Inhuman stuff that happened in AoS. If the MCU wants to bring in the X-Men and do the whole mutant-persecution story, it's kind of awkward if the world already went through the same process with the Inhumans a decade earlier. And it raises the question of what happened to all the Inhumans.
Same with the Spider-man cast since Peter, MJ, Ned, May, Flash, Betty all got blipped.
Yes, and nearly all the Ant-Man cast too, except Scott, of course.
And the convenient and notable exception of Cassie, who the studio needed to age up for their Young Avengers plans.
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Logan and the Deadpool movies are coming to Disney plus
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/21/23272916/logan-deadpool-disney-plus
My vote for the title of Deadpool 3 is "Deadpool in the Multiverse of Madness".
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/21/23272916/logan-deadpool-disney-plus
My vote for the title of Deadpool 3 is "Deadpool in the Multiverse of Madness".