Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Grendelsbayne]

That really means nothing. Even if they use the same actor, that doesn't canonize the show. At most it means that someone involved in the movie liked the actor enough to hire him for, what, 15 seconds of screen time and I don't even know if he had a line.

Anson Mount played Black Bolt in Doctor Strange 2 but that doesn't mean the terrible Inhumans show is canon. In fact, having Kamala Khan not to be an inhuman pretty much shows there's almost certainly no Inhumans in the MCU, and if they are they don't resemble all the stuff Agents of Shield did with it.

They could literally make anything they wanted canon and I suppose, but it's about the likelihood. I put Agent Carter at about the same level as inhumans when it comes to shows they could technically canonize but probably won't. Honestly think that the horrible Iron Fist show has a better chance of being canon, just in case they want the Defenders to count.

Agent Carter is a show that Kevin Feige was actually directly involved with, it involves multiple characters carried over from the movies and had a character that was introduced in the show appear in the movies (and not as a character in a far flung alternate timeline like Anson Mount) and its storylines have never been in any way contradicted by the films.

You have no reason to consider it 'de-canonized' other than the fact that you personally don't like it. This is the definition of wishful thinking.

 

[Set Harth]

Considering the Multiverse is now canon

Now?

"This universe is only one of an infinite number."

"Who are you in this vast multiverse, Mr. Strange?"

- The Ancient One (2016)

 

[Booji]

With the exception of season 4, which was fantastic, I thought AOS ranged from above average to complete shit. Season 1 showed a lot of promise. But the second half of season 2, all of 3, and the fake Coulson season are frickin terrible. The rest, eh. Nothing memorable. Season 4 truly was awesome though. If AOS is ever brought into the MCU again, fine. If not, whatever.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

Now?

"This universe is only one of an infinite number."

"Who are you in this vast multiverse, Mr. Strange?"

- The Ancient One (2016)

I'm terribly sorry I used the word "now". I'll try not to upset you so much in the future.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Canon is the quantum indeterminacy principle of narrative storytelling. Any given story point both does, and does not exist in relation to any other given story point, until it interacts with such an other story point, and it collapses the wave function.

So yeah, arguing over what does and does not count is fairly futile.

That's sig worthy,

 

[Turtletrekker]

Canon is the quantum indeterminacy principle of narrative storytelling. Any given story point both does, and does not exist in relation to any other given story point, until it interacts with such an other story point, and it collapses the wave function.

So yeah, arguing over what does and does not count is fairly futile.

That's right up there with The Doctor's description of time from Blink.

 

[Reverend]

That's right up there with The Doctor's description of time from Blink.

Wibbly wobbly, continuity spontinuity.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Martin Freeman confirms he'll be appearing in Secret Invasion.

 

[JD]

Cool, I like Freeman as Ross.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Evans' heart is in the right place, but its a comment on certain ill-minded quarters of society that he had to offer the following:

Chris Evans Makes Clear Who ‘Captain America’ Is Amid Upcoming Film

Evans took to Twitter on Saturday to clear the air for moviegoers hoping to see him return in the upcoming film.

“Sam Wilson is Captain America,” he said, replying to THR’s tweet, confirming Mackie’s role in the movie and simultaneously confirming he will not resurrect his 8-year stint as the titular character.

Last month while promoting his new film “Lightyear,” Evans told Yahoo News that Mackie is exactly the right man for the Captain America role.

“There’s no one better to do it. I mean, he honestly does it justice,” Evans told the outlet at the time. “I’m so proud of him. I can’t wait to see what they do in the future with it.

Ahh, but Evans will not convince those who are Hell-bent on despising Mackie as a character with life experiences that make him as much the patriotic symbol fit for the CA role as anyone else--perhaps more (as effectively proven in the Captain America and the Winter Soldier series). The loudest screams will come from the group who claim to know the comics on intimate levels no Marvel/Disney employee would...while conveniently "forgetting" Sam Wilson's unique sociopolitical perspective / experiences have been a part of the CA title since 1969. So much for certain fans' vast knowledge and care about the comics.

I'm sure some will attack Evans, accusing him of being a company puppet and resenting him for being absolutely clear that his version of Cap will not return to the MCU.

 

[Anwar]

Let them attack him, Evans has enough supporters to put the throwbacks in their place.

 

[StCoop]

Loki continues shooting in the UK at The Historic Dockyard Chatham which has a bunch of interesting ships (and a submarine) from different time periods they could be using.

https://thedockyard.co.uk/explore/three-historic-warships/

 

[StCoop]

19 Emmy nominations for the first lot of MCU shows.

8 for 'Moon Knight'.
6 for 'Loki'.
3 for 'What If...' (Including one for Chadwick Boseman.)
2 for 'Hawkeye' (Which is apparently a Variety Program.)

https://deadline.com/2022/07/emmy-nominations-marvel-chadwick-boseman-moon-knight-loki-1235062240/

 

[FreezeC77]

Moon Knight‘s eight include Outstanding Cinematography for a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie, Outstanding Fantasy Sci/Fi Costumes, Outstanding Music Composition for a Limited/Anthology Series/Movie/Special, Outstanding Character Voice Over Performance for F. Murray Abraham, Outstanding Sound Editing for a Limited or Anthology Series, Movie or Special; Outstanding Sound Mixing for a Limited or Anthology Series, Movie or Special; Outstanding Stunt Coordination for a Drama Series, Limited or Anthology Series or Movie and Outstanding Stunt Performance.

Oscar Isaacs not being nominated for ACTING for Moon Knight is a fucking disgrace.

He was nominated for the limited series category for Scenes From A Marriage, still shoulda been nominated for Moon Knight

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Moon Knight‘s eight include Outstanding Cinematography for a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie, Outstanding Fantasy Sci/Fi Costumes, Outstanding Music Composition for a Limited/Anthology Series/Movie/Special, Outstanding Character Voice Over Performance for F. Murray Abraham, Outstanding Sound Editing for a Limited or Anthology Series, Movie or Special; Outstanding Sound Mixing for a Limited or Anthology Series, Movie or Special; Outstanding Stunt Coordination for a Drama Series, Limited or Anthology Series or Movie and Outstanding Stunt Performance.

Oscar Isaacs not being nominated for ACTING for Moon Knight is a fucking disgrace.

He was nominated for the limited series category for Scenes From A Marriage, still shoulda been nominated for Moon Knight

Waaaay too much love for Succession. It shut out a lot of actors out, including Better Call Saul and Stranger Things (Sadie Sink deserved a nomination).

 

[StCoop]

Genre shows almost never get acting nominations.

 

[StCoop]

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Genre shows almost never get acting nominations.

Tell that to Game of Thrones and Millie Bobby Brown. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting.

Either way, definitely not "almost never."

Not that should still hold water now. Like I said before, it's more because the Emmys have a giant hard-on for Succession right now than anything else.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Genre shows almost never get acting nominations.

Genre series acting nominations and wins were not as rare in the 1970s--for example, in 1977, Lindsay Wagner won her Emmy in the Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series category for an episode of The Bionic Woman ("Deadly Ringer"), while Mariette Hartley won in 1979 in the same category for the "Married" episode of The Incredible Hulk (probably no coincidence that both series were developed by Kenneth Johnson).

 

[Anwar]

Tell that to Game of Thrones and Millie Bobby Brown. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting.

Either way, definitely not "almost never."

Not that should still hold water now. Like I said before, it's more because the Emmys have a giant hard-on for Succession right now than anything else.

I don't even get why. A bunch of unlikable rich people doing unlikable rich people things, and this is award worthy?