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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Morpheus 02 said:
For all my criticism, certainly the DCFU benefitted from Gal Godot and Amy Adams, and they played legitimately strong characters
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I mean, Amy Adams, to me, isn't a great actor, and her version of Lois was never particularly interesting. The only thing that makes her "strong" was that she was kidnapped less often then you'd guess, maybe? Wonder Woman is only a strong character because of her first solo movie, she's not really a character in BvS.
 
kirk55555 said:
I mean, Amy Adams, to me, isn't a great actor, and her version of Lois was never particularly interesting. The only thing that makes her "strong" was that she was kidnapped less often then you'd guess, maybe?
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As opposed to the nutbag version we got with Margot Kidder?
 
Turtletrekker said:
Just the fact the Amy Adams Lois wasn't tricked by a pair of glasses makes her the best Lois Lane in the history of character.
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I don't think you recall how Man of Steel went down. Per Wikipedia: "While following Clark, Lois inadvertently triggers the ship's security system. Clark uses his powers to rescue Lois before wearing the uniform and testing his flying abilities. Unable to convince supervisor Perry White to publish an article on the incident, Lois tracks down Clark back to his family home in Kansas, intent on finding the truth. She tries to persuade Clark to let her reveal his story, but decides to drop it after hearing of Jonathan Kent's sacrifice, and keeps Clark's identity safe."

As I recall, MoS Clark didn't start wearing glasses until the end of the film, when he started working at the inexplicably-no-longer-destroyed Daily Planet office. Lois knew of his powers well before then.

The one screen Lois who did see through Clark's glasses, as far as I recall, was Margot Kidder's Lois in the Donner Cut of Superman II.
 
Christopher said:
I don't think you recall how Man of Steel went down. Per Wikipedia: "While following Clark, Lois inadvertently triggers the ship's security system. Clark uses his powers to rescue Lois before wearing the uniform and testing his flying abilities. Unable to convince supervisor Perry White to publish an article on the incident, Lois tracks down Clark back to his family home in Kansas, intent on finding the truth. She tries to persuade Clark to let her reveal his story, but decides to drop it after hearing of Jonathan Kent's sacrifice, and keeps Clark's identity safe."

As I recall, MoS Clark didn't start wearing glasses until the end of the film, when he started working at the inexplicably-no-longer-destroyed Daily Planet office. Lois knew of his powers well before then.

The one screen Lois who did see through Clark's glasses, as far as I recall, was Margot Kidder's Lois in the Donner Cut of Superman II.
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Yes, but EVERY OTHER LOIS was fooled, at least for some time, by a pair of glasses.
 
Grendelsbayne said:
A phrase which was not used.
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Yes, it was, just six posts before your own, and four before your previous one:
Turtletrekker said:
Just the fact the Amy Adams Lois wasn't tricked by a pair of glasses makes her the best Lois Lane in the history of character.
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I am a writer. I do not put something in quotation marks unless it is a verbatim quote. And you have no right to call me a liar when you can't even bother to scroll up four posts to check for yourself.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Just the fact the Amy Adams Lois wasn't tricked by a pair of glasses makes her the best Lois Lane in the history of character.
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Christopher said:
I was not addressing every other Lois, merely the erroneous claim that Adams's Lois saw through his glasses.
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"Wasn't tricked by a pair of glasses" was the claim. "To see through" is a well-known metaphorical phrase for not being tricked by a facade or deception.
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I am a writer. I do not put something in quotation marks unless it is a verbatim quote. And you have no right to call me a liar when you can't even bother to scroll up four posts to check for yourself.
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The claim was that she wasn't tricked by a pair of glasses. You interpreting that as her 'seeing through' Clark's glasses - which you DID put in quotation marks even though it ISN'T what TT said verbatim - does not in any way mean that is what he was saying. And anyone with a brain can see that he wasn't saying that, because 'wasn't tricked by a pair of glasses' can also obviously mean that she was literally not tricked by a pair of glasses, ie, she was never put in the situation that all the other Loises were put in. Which was obviously what was being said.

So stop being an ass about your own mistinterpretation of an obvious post.
 
Christopher said:
Yes, it was, just six posts before your own, and four before your previous one:


I am a writer. I do not put something in quotation marks unless it is a verbatim quote. And you have no right to call me a liar when you can't even bother to scroll up four posts to check for yourself.
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I am with everyone else on this.

You might not be a liar (in this case), but you clearly MISREAD and MISINTEPRETED what was written. The way I read what @Turtletrekker wrote was that he liked that they did NOT portray her as someone fooled by the glasses. They just skipped that part entirely, and for some of us, made one of the best portrayals of Lois. And as a graduate of Northwestern's Medill School of Journalism, i certainly think she feels like a "real" journalist more than most other portrayals of Lois.
 
JD said:
Just to take this back to the MCU for a moment, it looks like the MCU S.W.O.R.D. is going to have a different name than the comics version. According to IGN a new card on Topps' Marvel Collect! digital trading card app has revealed that in the MCU S.W.O.R.D. will stand for Sentient Weapon Observation Response Division, instead of the name it has in the comics, Sentient World Observation and Response Division.
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Well, that makes it more logical why they might have jurisdiction with whatever's going on in WandaVision.

Not sure what exactly is being counted as a 'sentient weapon', though. Sounds vaguely Superhero Registration Act - esque.
 
Yeah, that is pretty vague.
Since it sounds like S.W.O.R.D. is going to be possibly dealing with terrestrial threats, could they go with the last Captain Marvel comic series and have Alpha Flight as the group that deals with aliens?
 
Grendelsbayne said:
Well, that makes it more logical why they might have jurisdiction with whatever's going on in WandaVision.

Not sure what exactly is being counted as a 'sentient weapon', though. Sounds vaguely Superhero Registration Act - esque.
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Could be an expansion on the Sokovia Accords, they created a government team to research any incidents caused by superhumans.
 
While I wouldn't be surprised that 1) Disney was willing to shell out some cash for the rights and 2) Universal would very much like some cash after last year's meagre take, it's still just a rumour. Also, that article doesn't even cite a source for the rumour, so given it's track record it's probably just some rando on reddit who knows a guy who's father's, brother's cousin's nephew's former room mate said so.
 
So this story doesn’t seem particularly well-verified but Deadline isn’t normally overly click-bait and they’re claiming that Chris Evans is in negotiations to return as Cap (not to headline, but in more of a Tony-Stark-in-Spider-man sort of capacity). Whether this is flashback, a period-set movie or he’ll be aged (or de-aged) isn’t clear https://deadline.com/2021/01/captai...ise-role-in-future-marvel-project-1234672430/
 
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