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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I see Ronda Rousey is still pitching to be Captain Marvel :

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=125894

Personally, I'd rather cast Rebel Wilson...

I think she'd have an uphill battle considering her main acting gigs to date consist mostly of 'Expendables 3' and 'Fast & Furious 7'. Anyone portraying Carol Danvers needs more than just an MMA fighter's physique, they'll need some serious dramatic acting chops.

There's a reason that movie studios spend a lot of money sending actors to physical trainers and specialist instructors when they need them to play boxers, horse riders, musicians or people who can use a gun without killing themselves. It's a lot easier to train a good actor to perform a specific skill, hone their body to look the part, or close enough to fake it than it is to train a person who's a real-deal fighter and athlete to emote convincingly. The former is a skill and can be learned, the latter requires innate talent, which you either have or you don't.

Not saying the latter is impossible (as Dave Bautista clearly proved) but Rousey has a lot to prove before they'll trust her to headline a blockbuster solo. Also, Bautista seems to have had a *lot* more experience in front of the cameras, even if most of that was as a wrestler.
 
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The article on Newsarama points out that the X-Men stuff is being done by Marvel Television which is now separate from Marvel Studios. I would assume this would still give the movies access to FF content, since the shows are using stuff from the movies, but I'm not exactly sure how all this works since the big shakeup at Marvel. If the rumor is true, which we still don't know for sure.

Do you guys think it would be possible to do a FF show? They do so some pretty impressive stuff on show like The Flash, Once Upon A Time, and AoS so I wouldn't think it would totally impossible. They would probably have to a suit or makeup for The Thing.
 
^The basic set-up of FF (four person team, family dynamic, recurring villian, fixed base of operations and universe hopping excursions) is certainly better suited to a TV show than a movie.
That said, I suspect realising The Thing and to a lesser extent, The Human Torch on a regular basis may be a little beyond the budgetary capabilities of a TV show.

Really though, the big news here isn't that they can make a Fantastic Four movie or show it's that they can now use the likes of Galactus and Silver Surfer for the wider MCU. After all, once Thanos is dealt with in Infinity Wars, who else is going to be the new Big Bad?
 
Well, Marvel and Fox have buried the hatchet - the X-Men TV rights discussions have borne unexpected fruit -

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/x-men/37359/x-men-fox-and-marvel-working-together-on-two-tv-shows

I dont know how this will impact on the MCU and X-Men franchises. No word on the FF or Glactus & Co., or the mutants getting a MCU outing or how they could be included, but it's interesting !

I wonder if this is why the Inhumans plans are being rethought ?

Hot damn, the First Family returns to Marvel, that's especially good news.

I have full faith that at Marvel we might finally get a good FF movie and it could be a good kickstarter for post Thanos Marvel movies.

They've been building up to Infinity War for 10 years or so but i always wondered what will come after that as a major story arc. FF has Galactus, 'nuff said. ;)

Now only X-Men remain outside of Marvel but as these movies have returned to quality i don't mind if they stay at Fox. They screw this up when Singer leaves and after 2020 X-Men may return to Marvel too and if the genre doesn't lose steam by then possibilites may be endless.
 
^The basic set-up of FF (four person team, family dynamic, recurring villian, fixed base of operations and universe hopping excursions) is certainly better suited to a TV show than a movie.
That said, I suspect realising The Thing and to a lesser extent, The Human Torch on a regular basis may be a little beyond the budgetary capabilities of a TV show.

Before watching The Flash I would have agreed with you. They've had no problems with their version of the Human Torch.
 
So, FF, Galactus, Surfer all back at Marvel ! FF movie in 2020, fantastic news.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/fan...ic-four-back-at-marvel-movie-planned-for-2020

X-Men movies finishing in their present form with the next one, carying on with new younger recasts and TV spinoffs with Marvel's blessing.

Marvel and Sony friends, Marvel and Fox friends, Sony and Fox, who knows ?

More TV, more movies, more crossovers, it's all good. Details are required - who gets to do what in what circumstances, who can crossover...
 
^The basic set-up of FF (four person team, family dynamic, recurring villian, fixed base of operations and universe hopping excursions) is certainly better suited to a TV show than a movie.
That said, I suspect realising The Thing and to a lesser extent, The Human Torch on a regular basis may be a little beyond the budgetary capabilities of a TV show.

Before watching The Flash I would have agreed with you. They've had no problems with their version of the Human Torch.

That's a few shots in a handful of episodes. Having the character there all the time is a few orders of magnitude more complex and expensive. Torch is certainly doable, but they'd *really* have to limit how often he "flames on". The Thing on the other hand is a much bigger problem since it's pretty much at the core of the character that he has to be that way *all the time*.

CG is out of the question, so they'd have to cast a big bloke and cover him almost head to toe in prosthetic make-up. Not only is that expensive for a weekly show, it'd be nothing short of torturous for the performer.

'The Flash' manages things very well, but I think this is a whole other level.
 
Den of Geek updates their story

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/fantastic-four/37372/update-fox-denies-fantastic-four-rumours

UPDATE: The Marvel deal for Fantastic Four might also include the rights to Galactus, Silver Surfer and Dr Doom too...
Update: Having asked for some clarification from our source, we understand that the deal Marvel have made with Fox - which will see Fantastic Four returned to the Marvel fold in exchange for the X-men TV rights - also includes the rights to villains Galactus and Doctor Doom as well as the Silver Surfer.

If the deal pans out as our contact says it will, this means that two of the biggest villains in comic books will be able to appear elsewhere in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and not just in the 2020 film we've heard is already in place.
 
After all, once Thanos is dealt with in Infinity Wars, who else is going to be the new Big Bad?

This is a reason I'm a bit disappointed we're getting The Infinity Gauntlet so early. How do you top the omnipotent end boss Thanos? Yeah, Galactus is big.... and that's about it. He's an ant compared to Thanos with the Gauntlet... and it would be yet another "alien from another world attacks Earth" story. Then again, it is the movieverse so maybe things will change up enough from the comics to make it work.
 
Maybe it'll give both parties ideas.

They're obviously talking to each other now - the TV stuff's not in doubt.
 
Even if the rumors aren't true, it is a good sign that the story was so plausible that nobody questioned it.
 
Well think of it this way. The TV rights to the X-Men weren't much use to Marvel, they'd have struggled to do a show while Fox were doing the movies and there'd have been legal objections. Fox needed Marvel's approval, so this way if they share the TV shows, they both get half if something instead of all of nothing.

If there's any agreement on the FF, they could be planning to share that too, like Marvel do with Sony and Spiderman. The FF would fit in the MCU, unlike the X-Men.
 
I just feel FOX's X-men has been a half hearted attempt to mine the characters and franchise.

I'm not just talking about the black suits either. Under Marvel's wing it can be so much more.
 
Well think of it this way. The TV rights to the X-Men weren't much use to Marvel, they'd have struggled to do a show while Fox were doing the movies and there'd have been legal objections. Fox needed Marvel's approval, so this way if they share the TV shows, they both get half if something instead of all of nothing.

If there's any agreement on the FF, they could be planning to share that too, like Marvel do with Sony and Spiderman. The FF would fit in the MCU, unlike the X-Men.

But those exec. types always seem to be more willing to have all of something, even if it isn't anything, than part of something. That's been the problem for so many rights issues in many things.
 
I just feel FOX's X-men has been a half hearted attempt to mine the characters and franchise.

I'm not just talking about the black suits either. Under Marvel's wing it can be so much more.

I'm pretty happy with what they've done, particularly with Singer. They're jyst starting to spread their wings outside the core feanchise - let's see how they do !
 
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