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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Trying to place 'Loki' anywhere in any timeline is by definition at exercise in futility.

Mind you, I'm one of those that never thought a chronological watch-through makes much sense. I mean are you supposed to skip the framing device for 'The First Avenger'? What about the post credits on 'Captain Marvel' and 'Black Widow'? Far too messy. Release order all the way . . . or better yet: whatever order I feel like at any given time since I've seen them all already.

A timeline like this is mostly just a curiosity that can help with context; not something I'd recommend anyone (new or veteran) use as a watch order.
I've made my peace with the fact that Agents of SHIELD takes place on Earth 617. "What If Nick Fury used the Project Tahiti process on Phil Coulson?"
Not me. I'm sticking with hope on this one. (Not that it actually matters to me honestly; I'm mostly being stubborn for comedic effect.)

That said; they did cast James D'Arcy in 'Endgame', so it's not *totally* beyond the bounds of possibility.
Plus of course adding the Netflix stuff is a fairly recent decision, so it's possible they might do the same for AoS & AC at some point when it makes sense. Like say when their new strategy of more grounded street level stuff for the TV shows calls for the addition of some former SHIELD agents to show up as the new Nick Fury for these Young Avengers. (And Ming-Na Wen is still in pretty good with Disney these days.)
 
Yup, same here.

...would be awesome for the gang show up in episode of What If...?

Agents, Cloak and Dagger, and Agent Carter are all on Disney Plus--and AC seems to have already been referenced in the MCU so the omissions appear to be intentional rather than lack of content on the site.

What If? seems to be placed aocording to what movies each season relates to--it looks to me as if the "chronology" is set up with a mind to prevent spoilers as much as any other criteria.

I would still love to see some kind of "master edit" that puts all the scenes of each installment in chronological order--for the fan that has already seen everything multiple times.
 
I've made my peace with the fact that Agents of SHIELD takes place on Earth 617. "What If Nick Fury used the Project Tahiti process on Phil Coulson?"

I haven't and I never will. As far as I'm concerned, "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." happened within the franchise's prime timeline. I refuse to kowtow to Kevin Feige's ego trip.
 
I haven't and I never will. As far as I'm concerned, "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." happened within the franchise's prime timeline. I refuse to kowtow to Kevin Feige's ego trip.
Well, from where I'm sitting, Earth 617 is the MCU's prime timeline. One that also includes Cloak and Dagger and Runaways. It's more fun here. ;)
 
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The actor who played Werner Reinhardt in SHIELD has said he was asked if he was available for Endgame, but he never got a follow up.

An image of the character also showed up in an unused Endgame VFX screen for the time heist
https://x.com/bejt_t/status/1505391332071723009?s=46&t=GJ4lIGndtLwuph_LJO2AJw
Damn, I love everything Reed Diamond does so it's a shame he didn't appear...but I also not sure where they would fit him in anyways.

Would be weird to have Red Hulk but not Green Hulk
Indeed. There's still a way to have him in the film and still be focused on Sam Wilson's story, while also connecting with Bruce's history with Ross.
 
Would be weird to have Red Hulk but not Green Hulk
Unless they're saving that particular confrontation for down the line where it will have more of a payoff.
Similarly, in "What If? season 2, I initially thought that it was a wasted opportunity to not have a green Hulk versus purple Hulk confrontation in the Christmas episode, but it paid off so much better in the 1602 episode.

"Hulk smash thee!" :lol:
 
Would be weird to have Red Hulk but not Green Hulk

That's the point: the film already has elements rarely associated with the history of Cap stories (acknowledging the MCU has not been big on tight adaptations of comic book stories or character legacies...still...). Tossing more Hulk-related elements (Red Hulk, the Leader, possibly the Banner Hulk, et al.) feels as if its crowding out the kind of story Wilson would need for his first solo story.
 
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