Including all of the flashbacks from the movies and every TV show, because I am a monster.
Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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Including all of the flashbacks from the movies and every TV show, because I am a monster.
To follow up on the previous discussion about the Ms. Marvel premiere date, TV Line believes that it's safe to assume that it'll be in early 2022:
"Any news on Ms. Marvel‘s Disney+ premiere date? Only a week or two ago they were saying 2021, but now by my calculations (after the announcement of the Hawkeye premiere date) they don’t have enough weeks on the schedule without doubling up a couple of episodes." – Lee
"I asked around and it is very safe to assume at this point that Ms. Marvel is now on track for an early 2022 premiere." – TV Line editor-in-chief, Matt Webb Mitovich
"I asked around and it is very safe to assume at this point that Ms. Marvel is now on track for an early 2022 premiere." – TV Line editor-in-chief, Matt Webb Mitovich
I think there's lots of stories from the MCU that could be told in animation. Hell, we've got five years worth of Bruce Banner / Hulk stories that haven't been told. Including Banner's association with Rick Jones (this was established in the opening credits sequence of the movie), one of his most important supporting characters in the comics.
Will they explain the plastic surgery to make him change from looking like Norton to Ruffalo?
"Well, it's me, and I'm here, so get over it and move on!" -- James Rhodes, Iron Man 2.
I wasn't pleasantly surprised.
I've got about half way through (I will go back and finish it another day) but it was pretty much as I feared. It started out O.K. but quickly lapsed into "It's a cartoon, it should be over the top/silly" territory.
I could kind of hand wave Captain Carter looking like She Hulk but the throwing trucks around and leaping from plane to plane stuff was way outside Steve's established strength and power set in the MCU.
Add clunky dialogue and this wasn't animated MCU, it was a kids cartoon with Saturday morning TV sensibilities.
I had honestly hoped for (if not expected) better.
I think Sharon was just more into letting loose her full potential.
As someone said, she wasn’t holding back.
I think Steve has displayed similar capabilities ( casually ripping apart logs, jumping from airplanes without parachutes, falling 30 stories onto pavement, beating up a guy in power armor, and as Blonsky showcased with an inferior serum probably even keeping up with the Hulk to a degree.
You mean Peggy?
Oh yes.
Don’t let me post here after bedtime, dammit!
There's also the fact that Steve started out as a 90lb asthmatic with a weak heart, a ruined immune system and high blood pressure...and it turned him into Captain America. Peggy was a perfectly fit and healthy woman in her prime AND she already had combat training. So yeah, the results were a little more pronounced. How is this a surprise?
I mean anyone remember what it did to Blonsky, the Royal Marine veteran?
I mean anyone remember what it did to Blonsky, the Royal Marine veteran?
Agreed. And I still say people are under estimating Steve's strength. Not only is there the kick he delivered to the truck in the clip I posted up thread, here's an example of his upper body strength. He's holding a freaking helicopter in place! I still say that Steve could have conceivably pulled off what Peggy pulled off.
I mean, in Peggy's case, didn't the shield and the vehicle's momentum do most of the work? Despite the claims of some in this thread, Captain Carter is not She-Hulk. She-Hulk would have just stood there like an adamantium statue and let the truck drive right into her and be unfazed.
I mean, in Peggy's case, didn't the shield and the vehicle's momentum do most of the work? Despite the claims of some in this thread, Captain Carter is not She-Hulk. She-Hulk would have just stood there like an adamantium statue and let the truck drive right into her and be unfazed.
Which reminds me that I'm really looking forward to seeing Tatiana Maslany as She-Hulk. I'm a big fan of Orphan Black!
The truck did run into her but she deflected its momentum and "tossed" it, similar to a judo flip. Aquaman did something similar way back in 2011s #1. The scene would easily have worked in live action I think.
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Judo flip!
It's just a matter of the consistency of the worldbuilding. Is the depiction of the supersoldier formula's effect on Peggy different from the earlier depiction of its effect on Steve, and if so, can that difference be explained? It's not about pitting two characters against each other, just about whether the formula is depicted consistently.
Is it "important" to address that inconsistency? Not in an absolute sense, perhaps, but it's an intellectual exercise. Fiction should engage us enough that it makes us think and wonder and ask questions and try to figure things out. That's what it's for, to stimulate a response.
SHOULD it? No. CAN it? Absolutely. Fiction is there for every other person to be what they want it to be. There's not 'should' involved. People should enjoy it in any way they see fit. So sure, my comment was a bit.....as I think people are wrong about debating it. My phrasing could be different. But so could yours.
Fiction is just that, fiction. Everyone can enjoy it in every kind of way they personally see fit. There is no 'should' about it.