Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    14.3%
  2. A

    39.7%
  3. A-

    14.3%
  4. B+

    4.8%
  5. B

    14.3%
  6. B-

    4.8%
  7. C+

    1.6%
  8. C

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  9. C-

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  10. D+

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  11. D

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  12. D-

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  13. F

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  1. JD

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    Silk is Sony, isn't she?
     
  2. Christopher

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    Yup.
     
  3. YLu

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    I’m surprised they’d keep MASTER OF KUNGFU as part of the title. Does that sound outdated to anyone else?
     
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    In "Civil War"? Probably a few actions scene. I got a big thrill when Steve nearly decapitated Tony's head with the shield. Otherwise, I didn't like the movie. Nor do I like how the MCU is handling the Sokovia Accords. To this day, I think it is a badly written story arc.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    No. It's an older and more accurate term than karate for a Chinese martial art. Hardly outdated.
     
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    It's better than how the comics handled it, and how X-Men keeps handling the Mutant Registration Acts.
     
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  7. Christopher

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    It's not even about age. Karate is a Japanese martial art form, kung fu a Chinese one. They're not interchangeable labels any more than "baseball" and "cricket," or "jazz" and "reggae." They're distinct individual forms within a larger category.
     
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    True. I was more referring to the "outdated" part of the comment but this is absolutely true.
     
  9. JD

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    Not at all, people still do Kung Fu and it still has masters.
    In anything at all, it just seems like all you do in pretty much every thread for ongoing movie or TV series is come in and complain about how much you hate what they're doing.
     
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    Jesus . . . then the comics story really must be bad.
     
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    Technically speaking, Karate is a Ryukyuan martial art form; it was not introduced to "mainland" Japan until after the Ryukyu Kingdom was formally annexed by the Meiji state in 1879. Indeed, while the current characters for "Kara-te" mean "empty hand", the prior set of characters used meant "Tang hand" - as in, to invoke the Chinese influence in the kingdom in general, and perhaps on the early development of this martial art in particular. (Although a recent publication in English has raised questions as to exactly how much cultural influence was in fact spread from the Ming Dynasty into the Ryukyu islands prior to the early modern era.)
     
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    "Black Panther" for Best Picture? It's not that good, especially the film's last 20 minutes or so. And how did this movie get a Best Picture nomination, when its director, the screenwriters and a few cast members had failed to get any nominations?
     
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  14. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Because of the way the Golden Globes are set-up: Screenplay is only one category, covering both original and adapted, while the supporting acting categories is a combination of drama, musical, and comedy. The Oscars split the former and generally ignore musical and comedy films for supporting (and lead) acting. Only the directing category might actually mirror the Oscars. As for lead acting, Chadwick Boseman is generally regarded the weakest link of the film and it's the supporting actors who might be in the running for awards, particularly Michael B. Jordan, Lupita Nyong'o, and Letitia Wright.
     
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    It really, really is. On paper they tried to come up with a situation where you could easily see and empathize with both sides of the argument, giving the story and characters a rich amount of depth and pathos. In execution, they managed to make just about every single hero on both sides come across as heartless, unsympathetic assholes. Seriously, fuck that storyline.
     
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    And yet, neither Jordan, Nyong'o, Wright or Gurira receive a nomination. Chadwick Boseman is regarded as the weakest link? Why? Because his performance wasn't showy?:shrug:I'm sorry, but I don't think this Best Picture nomination was deserved.
     
  17. Anwar

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    The whole is greater than the sum of its parts? The GG committee felt that while they individually may not have been Award worthy the totality of what they created was?
     
  18. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Did you not read my post? The Golden Globe supporting actor awards are a combination of three genres, two of which will be ignored by the Oscars, i.e. more people were in contention for those awards and things might open up for one or more for the Oscars. I swear, reading comprehension must be a dying art...
     
  19. LJones41

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    It's not worth it. The revelation of Wakanda's isolationism didn't connect to what happened to that Wakanda mission and King T'Chaka's reaction in "Civil War" to me. And what was Nakia doing in Nigeria? What did her actions have to do with Wakanda?

    My biggest problem with the movie was the last 20 minutes or so. Why? Why didn't T'Challa follow Naka's advice and use Wakanda's technology to help the African diaspora and other African nations? I really hated it when T'Challa made that announcement to the UN at the end of the film that Wakanda would be sharing its tech with the rest of the world, with Everett Ross looking on with a smug look on his face. Why did Coogler and Marvel allow Wakanda to share its tech with countries that did not require any real help? How does that help the African diaspora, when these countries have a history of oppressing them? Why did Marvel and Ryan Cogler attached this conservative agenda at the end of the film?

    Don't get me wrong. "Black Panther" is one of my favorite movies of 2018. I admit it. But it had problems that made me find it hard to accept its Golden Globe Best Picture nomination. As for this . . .

    That doesn't work for me.

    By the way . . . fuck you. I don't need your pretentious bullshit.
     
  20. The Scrooge Doctor

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    ...okkkaay. You asked a question, I tried to answer it, and then you misread my post. But okay, whatever. :rolleyes: :lol: