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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Nice to see that they didn't bother trying to stretch the timeline to justify three dialogue errors. Aside from Homecoming's pretty obvious screw-up, in Civil War both Tony Stark and Vision said that it had been eight years since Tony announced publicly that he was Iron Man.

I agree with you about the placement of Black Panther. Dialogue very clearly establishes it as being set little more than a week after Civil War, and considering how its plot revolves around T'Challa assuming his father's throne it makes more sense for it to take place sooner after CW than later. Maybe the Bucky post-credits scene takes place in 2017.
 
while fellow 2008 release The Incredible Hulk is bumped to 2011.

That was already established in Iron Man 2, where the news footage from the Hulk battle at Culver University was showing on a screen at SHIELD toward the end, and in the Fury's Big Week tie-in comic that showed how IM2, TIH, and Thor meshed together chronologically.
 
That was already established in Iron Man 2, where the news footage from the Hulk battle at Culver University was showing on a screen at SHIELD toward the end, and in the Fury's Big Week tie-in comic that showed how IM2, TIH, and Thor meshed together chronologically.
Oh, I know all that. I was just laying it all out for those who don't follow it all as closely as you and I.
 
And I was addressing them as well, to clarify for their benefit that the change in Hulk's placement is nothing new.
Cool. :techman:

At any rate, it occurs to me that this MCU timeline won't have any negative effects on Agents of SHIELD. Season 4, which already takes place in 2017, occurred over the course of weeks, I doubt two months time. From there, in season 5 present-day time only moves forward 6 months while Fitz is in prison. Once the team arrives home from the future, the rest of the season takes place over a matter of days. There's plenty of room for both seasons to have occurred in 2017, and be accurate to the timeline.
 
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Yeah. For my part, add pretty much the whole sequence to that list (for various different reasons).

I don't understand at all the idea that I shouldn't be affected by what's happening on the screen now simply because I know intellectually that most of these people will be ok in the end. That's not what stories are about. If that were the case, there'd never be any point in reading or enjoying anything other than the last chapter/page of a book or watching the last act of a movie/series.
And Titanic would have been a flop...ship sails, ship sinks.

@Christopher"If a death scene feels real and permanent to the characters within the scene, then it can feel real to the viewer or reader even knowing that it won't stick, because it's the emotions, not the facts, that shape our response."

Exceptions to this rule Jim Kirk's death scene in STID
 
@Christopher"If a death scene feels real and permanent to the characters within the scene, then it can feel real to the viewer or reader even knowing that it won't stick, because it's the emotions, not the facts, that shape our response."

Exceptions to this rule Jim Kirk's death scene in STID

I said "can," not "automatically will." Of course whether an individual case works or not depends on its execution. And it's a matter of opinion, since what works for one viewer won't necessarily work for another.
 
Once the team arrives home from the future, the rest of the season takes place over a matter of days. There's plenty of room for both seasons to have occurred in 2017, and be accurate to the timeline.

The team arrived home from the future right before and during the events of "Infinity War". That was established when Glenn Talbot mentioned Thanos. And I have been constantly told that the events of "Infinity War" had occurred during the spring of 2018.
 
Consistently told by whom? This timeline is the first and only official word from Marvel Studios on the timeline. If they say Infinity War took place in 2017, then it took place in 2017.
 
You get a mini-series! And you get a mini-series! And you get a mini-series! Everyone gets a mini-series! :lol:
At this point it seems like pretty much every character who isn't one of the series title characters, is getting a Disney+ series. Have we heard anything about a Hawkeye series yet? That one seems like kind of a no brainer.

That said (damn, Nick Fury, too?), Rocket and Groot make a lot of sense story wise, but as the article noted, that would be bloody expensive.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, as much as I would love it, the price necessary to actually do it really makes me doubt this one is going to happen. It is Disney, so I guess they might be willing to fork over the $$$ necessary to make it, but it still seems kinda unlikely.
 
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