• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


  • Total voters
    185
No reason they couldn't do what they've done with past movies -- do their own storyline about how the movie's events affect them, or about the role they play in the movie's periphery. After Thor: The Dark World, they had an episode about the team cleaning up the wreckage afterward and dealing with an Asgardian artifact (although one not directly related to the film's events). The Winter Soldier triggered the whole HYDRA/Ward story arc that lasted on the show for several seasons. They led into Age of Ultron by showing the team tracking down Dr. List and Loki's scepter and Coulson and Koenig readying the Helicarrier for Fury. They followed up Civil War by having the Sokovia Accords require Inhuman registration and regulation, which drove a lot of subsequent plotting. They followed up Doctor Strange by doing a season-long storyline involving magical forces and books looking much like those in the movie. And the recent half-season tied loosely to Guardians of the Galaxy by featuring the Kree and various technology resembling that in the film. Even the indirect connections still tend to have a major impact on the show's storylines.

It looks like AoS's season finale -- which they're writing as a potential series finale, just in case -- airs just two weeks after Infinity War comes out. So I'd be surprised if the climactic storyline weren't affected by the movie somehow.
 
Almost? Most of the recent Netflix shows/seasons have about as many references to MCU you may as well pick a TV show out of a hat and just say that also takes place in the MCU
The funny thing is, the alien invasion of NY from The Avengers is a (barely) referenced event in both Daredevil and Jessica Jones, but it doesn't seem to have changed the world the way, say, September 11 did. I know that we don't want the MCU to be too different from our own world, but some little differences would be nice.
 
The funny thing is, the alien invasion of NY from The Avengers is a (barely) referenced event in both Daredevil and Jessica Jones, but it doesn't seem to have changed the world the way, say, September 11 did. I know that we don't want the MCU to be too different from our own world, but some little differences would be nice.
Sure it did - Hell's Kitchen is a bad neighborhood again, and Harlem has African Americans again :)
 
I'd suspect this one will be just too big for SHIELD's paygrade. They will probably see it happen from the sidelines, maybe have some little side-story that sort of ties in, like rescuing people while the Avengers fight or something, and that's all.
I know they won't be directly involved, so I'd be happy with even just a brief reference in dialogue somewhere, just some to acknowledge that the characters are aware it happened.
 
The funny thing is, the alien invasion of NY from The Avengers is a (barely) referenced event in both Daredevil and Jessica Jones, but it doesn't seem to have changed the world the way, say, September 11 did. I know that we don't want the MCU to be too different from our own world, but some little differences would be nice.

In fact, the Battle of New York did have a direct and ongoing impact on the storyline of Daredevil season 1, as explained here:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/782...in-new-york-so-much-something-terrible-may-be
The villains who worked for Murdock's rival Wilson Fisk were the ones who brought up the battle quite a bit in the series, mostly because The Avengers' battle with Loki and the Chitauri essentially ruined most of Hell's Kitchen in New York City. As Daredevil is set almost exclusively in Hell's Kitchen, the series had a lot of room to explore the aftermath of the battle and how it affected everyday citizens.
So The Battle of New York is kind of everything to Daredevil: The real estate agent who shows Matt and his partner Foggy Nelson their new office space tells the boys that the rent for the space is so cheap, because everything around it was pretty much demolished by the battle. Thanks to all of the renovations and whatnot, things in Hell's Kitchen are more affordable than ever before. The series truly hinges on the much-needed rebuilding of New York City; it's what allows Wilson Fisk, Madame Gao, the Russians, and Nobu to further their evil cause to tear Hell's Kitchen down completely in order to "restore" it. Of course, those of us who've finished Daredevil know that the villain gang's reasoning and execution is horrible.

This also handily explains the discrepancy between the Daredevil version of Hell's Kitchen as a crime-ridden slum and the real-life version that's been thoroughly gentrified since the '90s. Presumably the MCU version used to be like the real one, but the damage and economic hardships from the battle caused reverse gentrification and reset it to the way it was in the '70s.

Of course, this was a bit of a retcon, since Hell's Kitchen/Clinton is on the west side of Manhattan, and most of the battle action we saw in The Avengers was more to the east, in the vicinity of Grand Central and Stark Tower (corresponding to the MetLife Building).
 
Marvel announces "Phase 4" release dates, but no titles.
On the Marvel front, Disney moved up an untitled film to July 31, 2020 (from a previous date of Aug. 7, 2020) and carved out dates for six other untitled Marvel movies: May 7, 2021; July 30, 2021; Nov. 5, 2021; Feb. 18, 2022; May 6, 2022; and July 29, 2022.

This doesn't count Spider-Man 2 (actually 7, but who's counting?) or Guardians 3, which have already announced dates.

It's easy to speculate for some. Guardians 3, Doctor Strange 2, Captain Marvel 2, Ant-Man/Wasp 3 and Black Widow, but still leaves something unknown.
 
One of them will probably end up being Spider-Man 3, since Sony will likely want to keep putting out a new movie every two years.

And yeah, based on the rumors that have been coming out lately, a Black Widow movie seems destined for one of those release dates. A Nova movie would also be nice, especially if Guardians finishes it off with #3. Richard Rider, please!

I'm not sure what else would fit into those slots besides more sequels. I think it'll be 2023 at the soonest before we'll see any X-Men or Fantastic Four movies, assuming the Disney/Fox deal goes through. Maybe Thunderbolts? Assuming they stop killing off their villains, anyway.
 
It's easy to speculate for some. Guardians 3, Doctor Strange 2, Captain Marvel 2, Ant-Man/Wasp 3 and Black Widow, but still leaves something unknown.
Black Panther sequel.

Plus, I damn well hope there's gonna be someone new in there too. I'd love to see all those sequels, but you gotta keep the new blood coming.
 
Avengers 5 will be one most likely for 2022, maybe retitled something like "New Avengers" or whatever, like how they do in the comics. New team and totally new line up, likely with Captain Marvel as leader.
 
I think it is safe to say Guardians 3 is one of them, Black Panther 2 is one, Ant Man & The Wasp Sequel is one, Black Widow (& White Tiger?) is one, Doctor Strange 2 is one, Captain America (in some shape or form) is one & something Thor related is one. Until we know who dies in Avengers 3 & 4 though there is at least some question about a good number of them, which is exciting.
 
Avengers 5 will be one most likely for 2022, maybe retitled something like "New Avengers" or whatever, like how they do in the comics. New team and totally new line up, likely with Captain Marvel as leader.
Uncanny Avengers ?
 
One of them will probably end up being Spider-Man 3, since Sony will likely want to keep putting out a new movie every two years.

And yeah, based on the rumors that have been coming out lately, a Black Widow movie seems destined for one of those release dates. A Nova movie would also be nice, especially if Guardians finishes it off with #3. Richard Rider, please!

I'm not sure what else would fit into those slots besides more sequels. I think it'll be 2023 at the soonest before we'll see any X-Men or Fantastic Four movies, assuming the Disney/Fox deal goes through. Maybe Thunderbolts? Assuming they stop killing off their villains, anyway.

My assumption at this point is that Guardians will keep going even after 3, but with a mostly new line-up (just like the Avengers). Maybe a good spot for Valkyrie to show up.
 
Due to some funky formatting on the page where I saw these dates I got this:
marveldates.jpg


That Marvel Trump movie sounds like a "can't miss".
 
Uncanny Avengers ?
I doubt they'd use that title since the comics team is a joint Avengers/X-Men team. The word Uncanny is so associated with the X-Men, I can't really see them using for something that isn't X-Men related, especially now that Marvel is going to most likely get access to the X-Men soon.
I could see New Avengers, or even Mighty Avengers before I could see Uncanny.
 
I doubt they'd use that title since the comics team is a joint Avengers/X-Men team. The word Uncanny is so associated with the X-Men, I can't really see them using for something that isn't X-Men related.

Just a wild guess here.... but maybe Relayer is referring to an Avengers/X-men flick?
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top