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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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The problem isn't Mutants being a new thing, the problem is that Xavier and Magneto's characters require both of them to have been around for a while before the X-Men.

They should pull a Captain America and have both of them have adventures in the 60s as the first Mutants (or perhaps only mutants) and then something happens that sends them to the future. Keeps them as having been around longer but also explains where they were in the intervening decades.
 
Anwar said:
The problem isn't Mutants being a new thing, the problem is that Xavier and Magneto's characters require both of them to have been around for a while before the X-Men.

They should pull a Captain America and have both of them have adventures in the 60s as the first Mutants (or perhaps only mutants) and then something happens that sends them to the future. Keeps them as having been around longer but also explains where they were in the intervening decades.
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Well, Xavier and Magneto by themselves can exist under the radar for quite some time. It's only when they go big with the X-Men/Brotherhood that it becomes unbelievable for them to stay hidden for very long. But, again, Magneto doesn't want under the radar in the first place, so...
 
grendelsbayne said:
Well, Xavier and Magneto by themselves can exist under the radar for quite some time. It's only when they go big with the X-Men/Brotherhood that it becomes unbelievable for them to stay hidden for very long. But, again, Magneto doesn't want under the radar in the first place, so...
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I have a hard time thinking Xavier would've been fine doing NOTHING during all the world threatening stuff that happened in the last ten years.
 
Anwar said:
The problem isn't Mutants being a new thing, the problem is that Xavier and Magneto's characters require both of them to have been around for a while before the X-Men.
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That's how it was when the X-Men were introduced in the 60's and they remained somewhat undercover through most of that decade.
Anwar said:
I have a hard time thinking Xavier would've been fine doing NOTHING during all the world threatening stuff that happened in the last ten years.
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I see no reason why he couldn't have been out helping in various crises in a covert manner.
 
Mutants need to be a very, very new thing. Like say, maybe 98 in the entire world. Xavier and Magneto, being amongst the first are the amongst only ones who are fully aware of the phenomenon.

Then something happens, and the mutant population explodes, becoming very public. Charles and Erik decide to take two very different courses, and the rest is history.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Mutants need to be a very, very new thing. Like say, maybe 98 in the entire world. Xavier and Magneto, being amongst the first are the amongst only ones who are fully aware of the phenomenon.

Then something happens, and the mutant population explodes, becoming very public. Charles and Erik decide to take two very different courses, and the rest is history.
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See, that's just the thing -- the MCU has already told that story with Inhumans in AoS. They were rare and secret at first, then something happened to cause their population to explode and become public, and it led to persecution, registration, etc. It would be redundant to repeat that narrative with mutants. Either that or, as someone suggested above, it would mean that the movies were jettisoning the MCU TV continuity, which would be undesirable, and it would still feel redundant.
 
I don't really think the movie division cares all that much about what stories the TV division has already told. If they want to have mutants be a new phenomenon that leads into the typical story we're used to seeing with mutants, then they're going to do it. It's highly unlikely that very many people in the theaters will be like "Wait a second, Agents of SHIELD already did this!"
 
I could have sworn he already said that was the case ages ago, but they all be acting like he blew their minds. But I guess if I'm not actually sure about remembering, who the hell am I to talk? ;)
 
The idea certainly has been discussed before but I think this is the first time Gunn himself has weighed in so definitively.

Either way, I'm not surprised. Makes sense within the context of the film.
 
Skywalker said:
I don't really think the movie division cares all that much about what stories the TV division has already told. If they want to have mutants be a new phenomenon that leads into the typical story we're used to seeing with mutants, then they're going to do it. It's highly unlikely that very many people in the theaters will be like "Wait a second, Agents of SHIELD already did this!"
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This is just sad. The growing lack of connection between the movies and "AGENTS OF SHIELD" is just ridiculous.


Does that mean Kennedy fired him from Episode IX after he talked shit about The Last Jedi?
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I don't think that would be a smart move on Kennedy's part.
 
LJones41 said:
This is just sad. The growing lack of connection between the movies and "AGENTS OF SHIELD" is just ridiculous.
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I agree. Ideally I would love for there to be a much stronger connection between the two divisions, but they've been growing farther apart ever since Disney reorganized things so Marvel Studios was spun off into its own thing, answerable only to Disney itself, and no longer having to go through Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter. This has been a huge benefit to the movies, but I think it's hurt the TV side of things. The Netflix shows almost feel like they want to be off in their own universe at this point.

Who knows, maybe some day after Perlmutter is gone, or Feige is gone, or both, that rift will be healed and the two sides will be more cooperative again. I'd love to see the movie division get more involved again, like when Kevin Feige and Louis D'Esposito got involved in the production of Agent Carter's first season, and Christopher Markus and Steven McFreely both created the show and wrote the pilot.
 
I'm curious how AoS is going to deal with Infinity War, if that really is as big as they keep saying, it would be hard to believe it wouldn't at least come to Coulson & Co.'s attention in some way.
 
I'd suspect this one will be just too big for SHIELD's paygrade. They will probably see it happen from the sidelines, maybe have some little side-story that sort of ties in, like rescuing people while the Avengers fight or something, and that's all.
 
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