Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Nerys Myk]

Which is hilarious!!!

You're thinking of the time The Torch and Thing met the (young) Beatles?

(One Direction broke up nearly three years ago, which means that they are just the same as the Beatles.)

As usual, your humor escapes me.

The Beatles are never far from my mind.

Did they? Being a pedant, I'll have to Google it.
Wiki says their last album was released in 2015 and the group went on hiatus at the end of that year.
More than you or I wanted to know, I'm sure.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I saw some teenage girls on TV screaming "IT'S NOT FAIR! IT'S NOT FAIR!" when the 6 o'clock evening news broke the story of the split, and then my stepfather said "Who the ###k are these people and why do I have to know this?"

If the split has been downgraded into a hiatus, sorry for passing on bad information. They are still a band who is together, and therefore not like the Beatles who have disbanded and muddled off.

I'm pretty sure that Ulysses is going to wake up a year ago, and decide that his visions of the future are too dangerous to share with the Super hero community, because this that we have been reading including Jim Rhode's death has been a vision/dream and not reality at all.

Or Jim is dead.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Wait...you're saying the Beatles broke up?????

IT'S NOT FAIR! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

For the paranoid x-fans, you can relax for another month, your titles are all there for October. Spider-Man, too.

http://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog?pub=MARVEL COMICS

 

[Mr Light]

I'm not reading these "Apocalypse Wars" stories but from the descriptions, the actual present day Apocalypse never appears, is that right? Just alternate/past/future versions? That's really disappointing. Pocy hasn't been seen in the modern continuity in what TEN YEARS? He just had a movie come out! Bring back Ole Blue Lips!

 

[Turtletrekker]

The X-Factor Epic Collection that was to collect Apocalypse's first appearances and was supposed to come out during the "Apocalypse Wars" event got delayed, which I thought was odd because of the movie. Where's the synergy?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Marvel hates FOX.

Marvel wants the X-Men back from FOX.

I'm not sure how well this is holding or when it started, or if what I read was true, but there's orders from up top that no new X-Men are to be invented, because if new characters are invented, FOX is allowed to use them in their movies, and #### FOX.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

There have been seven or eight mutants invented this year and a good handful the past few years. All of which Fox could use in the movies if they wanted to.

 

[RJDiogenes]

They should invent a mutant called The Unrelenting Fox, who has the power to create really bad movies out of thin air. That'd show 'em!

 

[Guy Gardener]

There have been seven or eight mutants invented this year and a good handful the past few years. All of which Fox could use in the movies if they wanted to.

It seems like an awkward thing to do, which is why I underlined that this embargo might not still be happening or may have never been happening.

This is from an interview with Chris Claremont a year ago.

"I have to say, quite honestly as I understand it, now the X department is forbidden to create new characters.

(SHOCK RESPONSE)

"Well… who owns them?

"All because all new characters become the film property of Fox."

"There will be no X-Men merchandising for the foreseeable future because, why promote Fox material?"

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-X-Men-Won-rsquo-t-Give-Us-Any-More-Mutants-67602.html

The article goes on to say that new X-men created under subimprints like Marvel Now, are exempt and FOX can't take them.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Chris Claremont must be wrong since there are new characters created. Fox owns the rights to X-book characters, regardless if those books are branded Marvel Now or not (although the characters I mentioned are mostly All-New, All-Different, not Marvel Now). Likewise, I can't think of a mutant character created recently that's not in an X-Book (i.e., a character who Fox won't have the rights to). They've existed in the past (such as the Great Lakes Avengers), but not recently.

In other words, Claremont's claim simply doesn't fit the evidence.

 

[Skellington]

Looks like someone's been raising awareness for a potential Squirrel Girl movie.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/my-god-its-the-unbeatable-squirrel-barrowman-1784174597

 

[JD]

Ok, that is..... I'm not really sure what that is.

 

[Saga]

 

[JD]

CBR's report on the SDCC Marvel Now panel.

 

[Mr Light]

http://mashable.com/2016/07/23/inhumans-vs-x-men-marvel-comics-con/#DxkWPTi58iqQ
The next big crossover is INHUMANS VERSUS X-MEN...
...how much you wanna bet this ends with a whole bunch of X-Books cancelled???

 

[M.A.C.O.]

http://mashable.com/2016/07/23/inhumans-vs-x-men-marvel-comics-con/#DxkWPTi58iqQ
The next big crossover is INHUMANS VERSUS X-MEN...
...how much you wanna bet this ends with a whole bunch of X-Books cancelled???

OR maybe Marvel realizes the Inhuman push isn't working and decides to let the X-Men win this time. Wouldn't it be the biggest twist to have Magneto kill the entire Inhuman Royal Family? Haha, I'd laugh out loud.


But, Marvel's trend of putting Hero vs Hero continues. Although, this time they have amped the stakes. Marvel has graduated from just hero vs hero, to a full on race war.

Death of X promo

Inhumans vs X-Men

Once again though, Marvel has inadvertently (or perhaps on purpose) proven Cyclops and Magneto to be right on the core issue.

#Cyclopswasright
#Magnetowasright

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Magneto has been right on many occasions. The problem with Magneto isn't his ideals, it's his methods.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You remember that the inflammatory "was right" T-shirts were worn by Quentin Quire because he's an ass?

 

[M.A.C.O.]

Some news about RessurXion and Jane Thor.

For the first time ever, Jean Grey is finally getting a solo book.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/9d1dd48f68f67025a00e4e0a9e9ab877/tumblr_ofbir37KBy1tgtdrfo1_1280.jpg

And only a couple months after Raven (another character who, like Jean, has been saddled with nothing but remakes of their one classic story from the 80s) got her first solo series.

Now, hold on to your hats. This is the ONE TRUE ORIGIN OF MJOlNIR.

Spoiler

Mjolnir began as a galaxy busting sentient space storm called the "Mother of Thunder". One day it headed towards Asgard, and Odin beat the storm into submission, put it in a chunk of Uru, and told the dwarves to weaponize it. And thus Mjolnir was forged.

#sarcasm
The Mother of Thunder is tired of being oppressed by men and chose Jane as her wielder! Not official, but I wouldn't put it past Jason Aaron to go this route with his Jane Thor comic.

Retconning till things feel right is what Marvel does nowadays.


-As an aside, we may want to rename the thread Marvel Now 2.0 or something. Since All New All Different is dead and Marvel is bringing back the NOW label to their books.