TNG Birthright Part 1
DS9 Till Death Us Do Part
Then we go to Episode 8 of Discovery
and Episode 9 of Discovery
Forget TNG and DS9. This is the 23rd century.
Kor
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Forget TNG and DS9. This is the 23rd century.
Kor
PHLOX: At least he was spared the final stage of this disease. May I ask how he was infected?
K'VAGH: Command chose his unit for the Augment experiment when we had exhausted our supply of prisoners, after they all killed themselves.
K'VAGH: Command chose his unit for the Augment experiment when we had exhausted our supply of prisoners, after they all killed themselves.
Worf got taken prisoner by the dominion as did Martok, and both were like as long there are still enemies to fight and a chance of escape it's cool to remain a prisoner.
L'rell clearly has other motivations and allowed herself to be taken prisoner to achieve her goals.
L'rell clearly has other motivations and allowed herself to be taken prisoner to achieve her goals.
ARCHER: I had T'Pol take a closer look at our prisoner's medical scans.
REED: They appear to show that he killed himself.
REED: They appear to show that he killed himself.
ENT "Broken Bow"
ARCHER: Let me get this straight. You're going to disconnect this man from life support even though he could live. Now where's the logic in that?
SOVAL: Klaang's culture finds honour in death. If they saw him like this he'd be disgraced.
TOS: They're a warrior race. They dream of dying in battle. If you understood the complexities of interstellar diplomacy
Maybe she's just not honorable.
ARCHER: Let me get this straight. You're going to disconnect this man from life support even though he could live. Now where's the logic in that?
SOVAL: Klaang's culture finds honour in death. If they saw him like this he'd be disgraced.
TOS: They're a warrior race. They dream of dying in battle. If you understood the complexities of interstellar diplomacy
Maybe she's just not honorable.
You just might be on to something, there...
...nah, that can't be the answer. It's too obvious.
That's racist.
But...but...Gene's Vision!!!
I think the new series is fantastic. I’ve been watching Star Trek since a kid & I can appreciate the creative evolution of how Discovery fits in. I’m assuming the ‘standard’ beam phasers will make some form of intro with the much anticipated Constitution-class cruisers.
The way the series incorporates old skool & next-gen sound effects for launching torpedoes & ambient bridge sounds is pretty cool.
These aren't klingons but are examples of when someone surrenders against the will of a culture
DS9 "Captive Pursuit"
DS9 "The Magnificent Ferengi"
Maybe she'll be discommendated and then join the cast of Discovery. Hopefully she won't join starfleet though since that would muddy the "first Klingon in starfleet" thing that Worf has.
DS9 "Captive Pursuit"
DS9 "The Magnificent Ferengi"
Maybe she'll be discommendated and then join the cast of Discovery. Hopefully she won't join starfleet though since that would muddy the "first Klingon in starfleet" thing that Worf has.
Who cares? Its TV. All I want is for it to be interesting, whatever the story it is they are trying to tell.
It makes it seem more real to have rules that don't change and become confidently familiar with that universe. Continuity keeps the audience from getting distracted. I like this explaination
https://www.lynda.com/Filmmaking-tutorials/importance-continuity/129023/519479-4.html
Man, you don't know much about Worf and the Klingons if you think this. Throughout TNG and especially DS9 it becomes clear that Worf being detached from the Empire means he is as pure a Klingon warrior who follows its traditions as anyone, he has an idealised view since he lives amongst humans and away from the corruption, there are a ton of reasons why he is such a "good" Klingon.
By the way, Worf got captured in DS9 and was taken to Cardassia for a public execution. General Martok and several other Klingons were held by the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant.
By the way, Worf got captured in DS9 and was taken to Cardassia for a public execution. General Martok and several other Klingons were held by the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant.
Except I have also quoted plenty of Klingons besides Worf that said the same thing. Episode "A Matter of Honour" was dedicated to learning more about the Klingon and made pretty clear that imprisonment was unacceptable. That idea was reinforced during episode "Birthright" by plenty of Klingon's other than Worf
But we see dishonourable Klingon's all the time in Star Trek too
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Much like Spock strove to be the "idealized" Vulcan. Just because they say something, doesn't mean they really mean it. Jesus says love the children, many Christians have no problems taking food and medical care away from them for a tax cut. And Roy Moore completely misunderstands "love the children".
I'm amazed that you remember Birthright and still don't get it. The whole premise of that episode was Klingons allowing themselves to be prisoners for a greater good.
The two renegade Klingons in TNG Heart of Glory give themselves up to Yar's security team pretty easily. Of course, that's because they have concealed weapons they are intending to use and break out, fight their way to the Battle Bridge and separate, then commandeer the stardrive section.
Worf is hung up on the "dishonor of capture" bit, but later Martok reminds him that a Klingon is only captive as long as he lets himself be, hence the "while there are still enemies to fight or hope of escape" bit.
L'Rell, similarly, has a secret weapon aboard Discovery she hopes to use to escape and complete her mission.
Worf is hung up on the "dishonor of capture" bit, but later Martok reminds him that a Klingon is only captive as long as he lets himself be, hence the "while there are still enemies to fight or hope of escape" bit.
L'Rell, similarly, has a secret weapon aboard Discovery she hopes to use to escape and complete her mission.
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