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Man fired over Packers tie in Chicago

^ yeah, what the hell was he doing spying on employees' CARS? :wtf:

Good point.

Be glad you don't have our store director. He found out one of the guys in our store shopped at a competitor (I think by finding one of their bags sitting in the car or something) and the SD told the guy that the next time he goes in there he can ask for an application. Not an isolated incident, either, same SD found out another employee shopped at a competitor once and gave the guy a whole new asshole for spending money at a competitor's store.

I'd report him for harassment.

The store director could easily say he passed or parked right by the guy's car, since some places have a designated parking area for employees.

That's all fine and well, but then it steps into the creepy zone with him commenting on the employee's shopping habits on his own time. It would be like the store manager berating me over why I buy Hanes underwear instead of Fruit of the Loom. It's none of his business, and it's harassment.
 
Reminds me of a story I read about a Miller employee who went to some event in Milwaukee. A photo of him driking a Bud Lite turned up in a local paper. One of his superiors found out and had him fired.

I can actually see that one because that's an employee providing bad publicity for his or her own company being on "public record" preferring the competitor's product.


I worked at McDonald's and the manager gave me dirty looks every time I went on break because I would sit outside and eat a peanut-butter sandwich and never the shit they served.

I also told people to go to Wendy's because they had a dollar menu. :lol:

Tough shit for this guy, he should know better. I don't work in Boston wearing a Yankee hat or tie. Common sense.
 
^ yeah, what the hell was he doing spying on employees' CARS? :wtf:

Good point.

I'd report him for harassment.

The store director could easily say he passed or parked right by the guy's car, since some places have a designated parking area for employees.

That's all fine and well, but then it steps into the creepy zone with him commenting on the employee's shopping habits on his own time. It would be like the store manager berating me over why I buy Hanes underwear instead of Fruit of the Loom. It's none of his business, and it's harassment.

Fully agreed, our director is a humongous ass. But his policy is, as I said, "If you shop at a competitor, pick up an application."

Granted no one has been fired because of this "policy" but he's still a hard-ass about it whenever he gets a whiff of it occurring. He berated a guy for bringing in his lunch in a competitor's shopping bag once, and yelled at a manager for 20 minutes when a competitor's receipt was found on that manager's person. (I think it fell out of his pocket or someone caught an eye of it when the guy was paying for something. Yes, he's got cronies around the store keeping an eye out for "clues" on stuff like this.) And when I say "competitors" I mean places like Walmart and Target. Places that, you know, sell things other than groceries. Places people could have gone to to buy pants or a DVD or something (things we do not sell.)

Tremendous hard-ass on this issue and those not in his "circle" hate it and crank about it all of the time. To make matters worse? He doesn't even offer a meaningful discount for employees (doing so would cut into his check, you see) it's some convoluted bullshit thing where it's not an "instant discount" at checkout but a racked up point system or some other that gets you a little bit of money at the end of the quarter.

God, I can't wait until this guy is gone.
 
I'm glad my managers have never been like that. Some of the HQ people, OTOH, I'm convinced are either clueless or just ill-informed when they make some of our policies.
 
Same thing with this Miller guy. Just because he works for Miller, does that dictate what kind of beer he's allowed to drink? Does it mandate that he root for the Brewers? Of course not. As long as he's not wearing his employee gear, he can drink whatever the fuck he likes.

In my book, it's not that he drank it that is the biggest problem...it's that he got in the newspaper with it. I'm pretty sure the photographer has to get permission from the people he takes a picture of (under normal circumstances) to publish that in the paper. Actually allowing his picture to be published with that is pretty careless.

I mean, I may have to use our competitor's product or go in their store for some reason, but I sure wouldn't let some news person publish a picture of me in there.

If you're in public (such as a sports game) you should have a reasonable expectation of being photographed; that's basically what the law states. There are some differences between the US and Canada, there, but generally speaking, in the USA that can be applied even more liberally. So no, the man would not have had to give his permission for his image to be published.

For a similar example, if you're at a political rally, and you appear in a crowd shot, there's absolutely no grounds for you to challenge that. So the guy was unlucky, but careless is overstating it.
 
Same thing with this Miller guy. Just because he works for Miller, does that dictate what kind of beer he's allowed to drink? Does it mandate that he root for the Brewers? Of course not. As long as he's not wearing his employee gear, he can drink whatever the fuck he likes.

In my book, it's not that he drank it that is the biggest problem...it's that he got in the newspaper with it. I'm pretty sure the photographer has to get permission from the people he takes a picture of (under normal circumstances) to publish that in the paper. Actually allowing his picture to be published with that is pretty careless.

I mean, I may have to use our competitor's product or go in their store for some reason, but I sure wouldn't let some news person publish a picture of me in there.

If you're in public (such as a sports game) you should have a reasonable expectation of being photographed; that's basically what the law states. There are some differences between the US and Canada, there, but generally speaking, in the USA that can be applied even more liberally. So no, the man would not have had to give his permission for his image to be published.

For a similar example, if you're at a political rally, and you appear in a crowd shot, there's absolutely no grounds for you to challenge that. So the guy was unlucky, but careless is overstating it.

He probably had the reasonable expectation that his job wouldn't be in jeopardy for simply having his favorite beer at a ball game, on his own time. He's not allowed a personal life, no, his body and soul belong to the company, and they don't approve of how he uses his money.
 
At least it's a reason. We had 12 people get fired from my store just last week with no reason given at all.
 
At least it's a reason. We had 12 people get fired from my store just last week with no reason given at all.

I'd say it's an excuse rather than a reason. A reason implies a thoughtful explanation. This is an excuse, or as I prefer to call it, a temper tantrum.
 
I think I'd be the first put up against the wall in one of your ruthless fashion pogroms. ;)
Oh, you're on the list.

But it's a long list, and I am but one man, so you probably have a while to go yet. :p
That's why you need Fashion Death Squads to enforce the dress code.

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Nazi chic appeals to the diffusion line mentality of Emporio buyers. :p
 
Unless this is a different situation, the Miller employee fired for drinking Bud Light was not at a Brewers game.

http://www.kmbc.com/r/4191531/detail.html

The article says Miller has no corporate policy in this area, but leaves it up to the distributors to set the policy.

I'm sounding like a hard-ass in my opinion. But nothing in U.S. law says an employer can't set a policy about employees using competitors' products. It's not harrassment to get onto someone for it. In fact, calling it that cheapens the word.

There are probably exceptions, too. I'm sure quite a few Mac workers are encouraged to use MS products in order to figure out how they work, and vice versa. I'd guess plenty of bottles of Pepsi have been brought into Coke plants for some kind of analysis of the product. If you are employed building some high-end product, you probably aren't expected to own it.

Ford may not care too much if line employees drive Toyotas or Hondas, but I doubt they'd tollerate an executive who didn't own a Ford. Contract employees can also have condidtions in their contracts that prohibit the use of a competitor's product. In other words, your standing in the company probably matters a lot, too.

In general, Coca-Cola may just shrug if an employee uses the competitor's product once in a while on his own time. I'm sure Coke employees eat at Pizza Hut (Pepsi-owned), for example. Especially since Coke doesn't have an equivalent.
But at the same time, I think Coke would be quite upset if a uniformed employee parked his Coke truck in a Pizza Hut lot, and proceeded to go in for lunch.

A grocer may not care if a bagger occasionally shops at another store. However, I doubt the grocer would feel the same way if people tell him they see the store's produce manager regularly buying fruits and vegetables at a competitor.
 
Pepsico split the restaurant arm (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC) off as an independent corporation years ago. Since then Yumm has acquired A&W Rootbeer/Burger and Long John Silvers (although I gather those last two units are on the market). Last time I dined in Long John Silvers the beverage dispenser was offering Coke products.
 
Pepsico split the restaurant arm (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC) off as an independent corporation years ago. Since then Yumm has acquired A&W Rootbeer/Burger and Long John Silvers (although I gather those last two units are on the market). Last time I dined in Long John Silvers the beverage dispenser was offering Coke products.

Ignores the point he was making, but, great.
 
Pepsico split the restaurant arm (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC) off as an independent corporation years ago. Since then Yumm has acquired A&W Rootbeer/Burger and Long John Silvers (although I gather those last two units are on the market). Last time I dined in Long John Silvers the beverage dispenser was offering Coke products.

True. Which makes it even harder for a person to know if he or she is in "enemy" territory or not. Which means if one isn't flaunting it, like I'd say the cases in this thread have, the person is probably OK. I mean, who's to know who owns what these days?
And of course, some common sense applies. For example, when Coke owned Columbia Pictures, they certainly couldn't have cared if Coke employees went to movies produced by other studios. And, I doubt they cared if Columbia workers drank Pepsi.
 
And Pepsi didn't sue Michael Jackson for using Coke instead of Pepsi for his Jesus Juice....
 
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