Please let's not go there. You are obviously entitled to your opinion (and I know that you are not the only one feeling that way about the (Klingon) designs in Discovery), but I have (A) no real desire to drag that whole argument and all it entails from the Discovery forum to this one and I feel that (B) even though the artists working on Discovery might not be members at the Trek BBS, we as fellow artists owe them at least a modicum of respect when we talk about their work. Again, you don't have to like what they are doing and you are free to say so, but I would appreciate a less crass mode of expression.