MadUniverse Galaxy Class

[MadMan1701A]

An interesting effort.. My only comment would be to replace the straight lines with curved which will provide unifying effect. In other words, in the top view, bow the lines coming off the dorsal, curving them toward a narrow gap at the bow. Look at the shape you have curved around your bridge, for example.

Hmm, imagine overlaying the Voyager profile (plan view) onto your design and see how the curved lines complement, rather than conflict with, your plan view profile... mirroring it on the saucer underside of course. You should then, for the sake of continuity, follow that example in your bussard cutouts as well.

If you want a rOund deflector then I'd suggest pulling more of a teardrop-shape feature from the saucer's underside center down around the deflector opening to provide a bolder cross-axis statement rather than dropping a circle in the middle of elongated oval shapes, as viewed from the front.

The pie-shaped saucer window cutouts are nice. I would probably widen the sides more. Speaking of sides, have you considered what effects the blast from your engineering hull impulse engine might have on that narrow exhaust channel?

Finally, would you mind showing us what your saucer section looks like when separated?

Thanx, Andrew-

Wow, I wondered if you would see this, and what you would think. I think it's awesome that you think it's interesting.

The straight lines on the saucer come directly from the idea that the neck comes all the way up to the front, and comprises that middle part of the saucer. If I curve that part, I'll have to widen the back of the neck more, unless it comes to a narrower point in the front, which I didn't really want. I did like the idea that someone had, of putting the forward torpedo tubes there... I think I'm going to try that.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about comparing Voyager's profile with this one. Looking at my side view, I think I see what you're saying... everything else is curved and swept forward, except for the nacelles. Of course, I wanted to keep the basic idea and shape of the ones from your REAL Galaxy class.

Thanks for the idea about the teardrop shape around the deflector housing... I may tweak that area some, since I'm moving the Torpedo tubes, and the ones I put there are too small anyway. In that cut out area, I was thinking of adding detail like Voyager has on it's several exposed sensor arrays, and those probably don't need to be right next to the torpedo tubes anyway.

I'm glad you liked what I did with the windows. If I could ask a question about your design for the Enterprise D, though... Did you always intend to have the entire surface covered with windows, or did that idea come later? I always wondered about that, because even though the sets had sloped windows, a lot of the ones on the saucer would have had windows that were almost skylights, wouldn't they?

I haven't worked out the saucer separation yet, really. I keep going back and forth over whether to do it, or not. Today, I was thinking about not.

Thanks again for the comments.

-Ricky

 

[Kirkunit]

Wow, blast from the past! Those are actually my sketches. Great job bringing them to life!

I obviously didn't spend too much time on them, but IIRC, my inspiration (if you can call it that) was my disappointment with Nemesis. I thought that movie would have been much better if the whole Shinzon story line was replaced by the Mirror Universe -- including evil Picard. The story could have been largely unchanged, without being quite so derivative. I also thought fans would go nuts at the reveal of a Mirror Universe Enterprise D battling our universe 'E.

FYI, I still think the saucer in the upper view of my sketches looks a bit like an old-school Cylon Raider.

Keep up the good work!

Anyone have idea where these came from? They may even have come from this board.

-Ricky

 

[CorporalCaptain]

FYI, I still think the saucer in the upper view of my sketches looks a bit like an old-school Cylon Raider.

I noticed! It's just missing the black cockpit hood, really.

 

[sojourner]

Hey Madman, just to illustrate what Mr. Probert is suggesting (and what I was thinking) here is a very rough sketch of what I think he means for the change to the wedge lines. Make one nice organic curve from the front of the hull all the way to where it terminates at the rear of the secondary hull:

This a quick crude image to get the idea across. You would obviously need to massage it a bit to narrow the point in the front.

 

[fleetcaptain]

About time does a nuGalaxy class verison. I have been waiting to see what the 24th Century verison would look like. Great job so far man.

 

[MadMan1701A]

Wow, blast from the past! Those are actually my sketches. Great job bringing them to life!

I obviously didn't spend too much time on them, but IIRC, my inspiration (if you can call it that) was my disappointment with Nemesis. I thought that movie would have been much better if the whole Shinzon story line was replaced by the Mirror Universe -- including evil Picard. The story could have been largely unchanged, without being quite so derivative. I also thought fans would go nuts at the reveal of a Mirror Universe Enterprise D battling our universe 'E.

FYI, I still think the saucer in the upper view of my sketches looks a bit like an old-school Cylon Raider.

Keep up the good work!

Anyone have idea where these came from? They may even have come from this board.

-Ricky

Glad you like it.

Your drawings were hanging out in a folder where I kept some of the neat stuff I see around, and I go in there for ideas every so often.

 

[MadMan1701A]

Hey Madman, just to illustrate what Mr. Probert is suggesting (and what I was thinking) here is a very rough sketch of what I think he means for the change to the wedge lines. Make one nice organic curve from the front of the hull all the way to where it terminates at the rear of the secondary hull:

This a quick crude image to get the idea across. You would obviously need to massage it a bit to narrow the point in the front.

Yeah, I see what you guys are getting at. I think I'm going to leave the widest part at the back, at the top of the neck, though. I think I'm also going to explore a couple of Andrew's ideas.

-Ricky

 

[TheSeeker]

I'd like to see him take a stab at updating his own design too.

 

[Probert]

An interesting effort.. My only comment would be to replace the straight lines with curved which will provide unifying effect. In other words, in the top view, bow the lines coming off the dorsal, curving them toward a narrow gap at the bow. Look at the shape you have curved around your bridge, for example.

Hmm, imagine overlaying the Voyager profile (plan view) onto your design and see how the curved lines complement, rather than conflict with, your plan view profile... mirroring it on the saucer underside of course. You should then, for the sake of continuity, follow that example in your bussard cutouts as well.

If you want a rOund deflector then I'd suggest pulling more of a teardrop-shape feature from the saucer's underside center down around the deflector opening to provide a bolder cross-axis statement rather than dropping a circle in the middle of elongated oval shapes, as viewed from the front.

The pie-shaped saucer window cutouts are nice. I would probably widen the sides more. Speaking of sides, have you considered what effects the blast from your engineering hull impulse engine might have on that narrow exhaust channel?

Finally, would you mind showing us what your saucer section looks like when separated?

Thanx, Andrew-

Wow, I wondered if you would see this.

The straight lines on the saucer come directly from the idea that the neck comes all the way up to the front, and comprises that middle part of the saucer. If I curve that part, I'll have to widen the back of the neck more, unless it comes to a narrower point in the front, which I didn't really want. I did like the idea that someone had, of putting the forward torpedo tubes there... I think I'm going to try that.

Yes, your tubes could be at the center of that newly-narrowed front area. Or you could keep the tubes in the neck but arranged vertically. Then, in that saucer front, you could introduce a forward entrance for your main shuttle bay.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about comparing Voyager's profile with this one.

Sorry, I parenthetically specified "Plan View"... [Top View].

Thanks for the idea about the teardrop shape around the deflector housing... I may tweak that area some, since I'm moving the Torpedo tubes.

I'm glad you liked what I did with the windows. If I could ask a question about your design for the Enterprise D, though... Did you always intend to have the entire surface covered with windows, or did that idea come later?

I originally did not want so many windows,... that requirement came from Producer Bob Justman.

I always wondered about that, because even though the sets had sloped windows, a lot of the ones on the saucer would have had windows that were almost skylights, wouldn't they?

The vertical windows came from the fact that I wanted to give occupants of all heights the ability to look through a window. They therefore (in the real world, not studio set) start near floor level and continue upwards to a vertical height of six feet. Because of "glass" material height availability and various set dressing layouts, those intended perimeters weren't met. That's okay, the show didn't suffer because of that little 'adjustment'. I also wanted those outer walls to be built on a hinge swinging outward to portray quarters below the saucer center-line but that just wasn't affordable.

I haven't worked out the saucer separation yet, really. I keep going back and forth over whether to do it, or not. Today, I was thinking about not.

All saucers have had that capability... (although I don't know about Voyager). If your saucer didn't separate, however, you wouldn't be needing your saucer impulse engines.

 

[JES]

I would plan to eventually design some sort of saucer separation, at least for the sake of tradition.

 

[MadMan1701A]

Thanks for all the comments guys, especially Probert.

I rebuilt most of the front of the neck, and both halves of the saucer, adding a curve to the V shape.

The biggest change is the deflector area... It's now scooped out, in kind of a teardrop shape with my sensor channel merged with it. I think that really opens the area up.

So, next up I'll get back on the windows, and I have an idea about the impulse engines...

So, what do y'all think? Better, or worse?

-Ricky

 

[TheSeeker]

Even just adding that slight curve to the V really softens it up and makes it flow a lot better in my opinion.

Looking good!

 

[RoJoHen]

^I completely agree. The cut-out looks a lot better and fits in with the rest of the ship. It's almost like a hot racing stripe!

 

[captainkirk]

By the way, what ever happened to your Narada project? The updates look good.

 

[Starship]

Looking better, for sure!

 

[Probert]

The biggest change is the deflector area... It's now scooped out, in kind of a teardrop shape with my sensor channel merged with it.

Better, or worse?

-Ricky

Better,... but consider blending the deflector-tear-drop back into your lower hull sides,... smoothing out that pinched area between the lower hull and the dorsal.

Just an idea.

 

[MadMan1701A]

The biggest change is the deflector area... It's now scooped out, in kind of a teardrop shape with my sensor channel merged with it.

Better, or worse?

-Ricky

Better,... but consider blending the deflector-tear-drop back into your lower hull sides,... smoothing out that pinched area between the lower hull and the dorsal.

Just an idea.

Good idea. I pulled back the edges of the teardrop some, and smoothed out the transition of where the crease starts towards the front. Subtle difference, but it does look better.

More later. Planning on cutting in those windows, today.

-Ricky

 

[publiusr]

I like the V cut out on top fine. Maybe just a bit of the curve. The layered look you had initially is also great.

I was going to place the nacelles from this
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Turbo_Speeder
And put them on this:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Droid_gunship
The underside of the Droid gunship looks very like the underside of the Enterprise-E's saucer, and the nacelles from the Turbo Speeder have a lowered section on the bottom that looks like a flux chiller of sorts.

I don't have the heart now to cut them up....
The underside is flat, as per Mr. Proberts ideas on freshening up the JJ-prise of Ryan Church, but very detailed, which makes a ship of this size stand out.
I was going to place the nacelles from this
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Turbo_Speeder
And put them on this:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Droid_gunship
The underside of the Droid gunship looks very like the underside of the Enterprise-E's saucer, and the nacelles from the Turbo Speeder have a lowered section on the bottom that looks like a flux chiller of sorts.

I don't have the heart now to cut them up....

 

[sojourner]

^um, ok?

 

[O'Dib]

I'm not sure what the design philosophy of the newly christened MadUniverse is, but I'm guessing the idea is still that this would be several generations removed from the JJprise redesign? In which case I'm wondering if the nacelles shouldn't more loudly scream "OMGtehAwesome!!" Just saying. The saucer and secondary hull sufficiently fit the bill, IMO.