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Spoilers Lower Decks General Discussion Thread

I must say that at the beginning, Lower Decks seemed to be rather similar to Matt Groening´s Fantasy show Disenchantment, which is also half-comedy, half-serious and has maybe too much case of splitted identity. However, it seems that unlike Disenchentment, LD writers have much clearer vision of what they are doing. Then again, they are still working with bigger potential than we are seeing at the time.

Disenchantment got much, much better beginning with the final three episodes of the first season, when they actually committed to some level of serialization of the story.
 
Disenchantment got much, much better beginning with the final three episodes of the first season, when they actually committed to some level of serialization of the story.
You probably mean the end of Volume 1... Alright, but I think Volume 2 returned to lameness pretty quickly, I got bored and haven´t finished it yet (but I know what will happen).
 
try Lovecraft Country, it's really good

I'm not sure I'm not that big of a fan of Lovecraft's work. I assume they cut out the more problematic parts, but even without that it's so hopeless and all those tentacle monsters look the same after a while.
 
You probably mean the end of Volume 1... Alright, but I think Volume 2 returned to lameness pretty quickly, I got bored and haven´t finished it yet (but I know what will happen).

Yeah, Volume 2 kinda had this issue that the vast majority of it was basically the show spinning its wheels before getting to the series finale.
 
I'm not sure I'm not that big of a fan of Lovecraft's work. I assume they cut out the more problematic parts, but even without that it's so hopeless and all those tentacle monsters look the same after a while.

It's a world inspired by Lovecraft and other classic sci-fi from the perspective of African American protagonists. The problematic elements are not cut out, but neither are they celebrated.

Highly recommended.
 
I'm not sure I'm not that big of a fan of Lovecraft's work. I assume they cut out the more problematic parts, but even without that it's so hopeless and all those tentacle monsters look the same after a while.

More precisely the problematic parts are front and center with African American protagonists. I recommend Ruthanna Emyrs Innsmouth Legacy for a similar deconstruction. It's about a mermaid/Deep One protagonist persecuted by the government for her faith.
 
More precisely the problematic parts are front and center with African American protagonists. I recommend Ruthanna Emyrs Innsmouth Legacy for a similar deconstruction. It's about a mermaid/Deep One protagonist persecuted by the government for her faith.
Is that a show or a book?
 
I actually am of the opinion the Cerritos is a place that Starfleet assigns all of its underperformers as well as extreme personalities versus outright court martialling them.

It would not be "enlightened" just to kick them out so they give them jobs to keep them busy and productive that no one else wants.

Which may be the fun of poor Mariner as they can't transfer her because it's already the worst ship in the fleet.
 
I'm not sure I'm not that big of a fan of Lovecraft's work. I assume they cut out the more problematic parts
the opposite is true. it's the world of Lovecraft through the eyes of African-Americans. They rightfully put a big spotlight on the problematic parts and for some strange reason, this gives hope
 
the opposite is true. it's the world of Lovecraft through the eyes of African-Americans. They rightfully put a big spotlight on the problematic parts and for some strange reason, this gives hope

I also recommend THE BALLAD OF BLACK TOM by Victor Lavalle, who is actually not that dissimilar from the main character of LC in real life.

Being a black man struggling with the fact he's a fan of the work of an author who would not like him.
 
an author who would not like him.
the weirdest thing about Lovecrafts racism and antisemitism was: once he knew a person on a personal level, he really liked them. his wife was jewish, so were a couple of his closest colleagues and during his time in New York he became allegedly pretty friendly with a handful of POC.
Didn't stop him to be a racist asshole to anyone else, though.
 
the weirdest thing about Lovecrafts racism and antisemitism was: once he knew a person on a personal level, he really liked them. his wife was jewish, so were a couple of his closest colleagues and during his time in New York he became allegedly pretty friendly with a handful of POC.
Didn't stop him to be a racist asshole to anyone else, though.
Yes, this isn´t very typical racism, but I can kinda see to that mentality. When it came to his own wife he supposedly said she was "well assimilated" (subconscious resistance was futile), but he probably saw Jewish blood and the very proximity of black people as a threat Aryan strength and the high Anglo-Saxon culture. I am not aggressively racist person, but I can understand the logic. In the Lovecraft´s case it was bundle of abstract ideas he was reforging into fantastica. It could be isolated from the practical conduct when it came to friendly individuals.
 
Good for you, I guess. But what a weird thing to say. There's no logic whatsoever in racism. And what does “I am not [an] aggressively racist person” even mean? You are a reasonably racist person? A peacefully racist person? :confused:
I apologize if I sounded possibly malovelent. I am humanist first and foremost and I would never judge someone over ethnicity and I would definitely never hurt someone because of differences. Iit´s just ethnicity is genes and it is not completely irrelevant when it comes creating the person. They are not determinating either.
 
Yes, I know TrekYards, but it’s also an interview with the show's creator so...
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Edit: Though maybe this should have been better to post in the ship thread, eh.
 
Yes, I know TrekYards, but it’s also an interview with the show's creator so...
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Edit: Though maybe this should have been better to post in the ship thread, eh.

We're debating H.P. Lovecraft and the logic of racism here. This is no place for discussion about some random cartoon show.
 
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