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Spoilers Lower Decks General Discussion Thread

it’s nice to see them confirm that the show will actually be canon and explain how it fits in. I know many people were worried we would have another TAS issue on our hands. I’m anxiously waiting for it to come out.

I really hope it isn't "canon", I want them to tell the best stories possible and not be beholden to decades old "facts".
 
I really hope it isn't "canon", I want them to tell the best stories possible and not be beholden to decades old "facts".

What prevents them from telling great stories by utilizing the canon that was established in the previous series? They can still expand on it and develop new canon going forward. It sounds to me more like you're talking about wanting the show not to be canon in the Trek-verse so it doesn't affect your view of the other shows.
 
What prevents them from telling great stories by utilizing the canon that was established in the previous series? They can still expand on it and develop new canon going forward. It sounds to me more like you're talking about wanting the show not to be canon in the Trek-verse so it doesn't affect your view of the other shows.

I want them to have a clean creative slate, nothing about doing their own thing prevents them from utilizing elements from other shows.
 
To put it another way, if someone is writing a Civil War epic and they need to change some facts around about Grant or Lee's life in order to facilitate tension and/or drama, that's exactly what they're going to do.
 
What prevents them from telling great stories by utilizing the canon that was established in the previous series? They can still expand on it and develop new canon going forward. It sounds to me more like you're talking about wanting the show not to be canon in the Trek-verse so it doesn't affect your view of the other shows.
Nope. I want them to tell a story without them being constraint by presuppositions of assumptions of 50 years of "canon" which can be changed. It's not immutable. If that means ignoring canon then so be it.
 
I don't see why they can't co-exist. All the other series do it fine.

Sometimes one wants a fresh world where anything can happen. Where they can make Spock gay if they want, or kill Kirk when he's a Lieutenant and the world goes on in unpredictable ways, or the Klingons find Talos first...
 
The oldest form of storytelling is mythology, and mythology is wildly inconsistent.

Hell, there's outright inconsistencies in the bible (like two different genealogies for Jesus in the Gospels, both of which trace him as being a direct descendant of Davidvia Joseph). Christians don't give a crap though.

Why can't Trekkies deal with inconsistency in fictional stories?
 
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From what I’ve seen in the last 25 years I’ve been a fan, most fans, or at least the most vocal ones prefer things being in the same timeline, and are uninterested if there’s no connections.

Honestly I don’t care either way I’ll watch it, but I’d be more interested if it had those connections.
 
The show is their religion. Fuck, they even endlessly debate “canon” like they’re in the 400th gathering of the Council of Nicaea or something. It’s not limited to Trek, either. Star Wars has its zealotry as well.
 
If we're comparing Trekkies and Christians (for some reason?) lets tabulate the number of deaths attributable to Trek fandom compared to those that came about due to Christianity. :)
 
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