Heinlein was a horny SoaB. Some of his later stuff was definitely very wacky.
Lost In Space.... Robinsons and breeding.
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There was a lot of smug engineer-guy stuff about sex in the old Astounding Stories but it was generally pretty oblique. Didn't want the teen boys' moms freaking out too much.
I think it's sometimes a cathartic way for writers to let off "steam" - ahem - for example, The Hand-Reared Boy, A Soldier Erect, and A Rude Awakening by Brian W Aldiss. At least he chose not to make those SF works.
More than that, it was a major source of income for quite a few of the best-known science fiction writers of the pulp paperback era. Robert Silverberg and Harlan Ellison were among those who ground out hard-core porn books, Silverberg sometimes using his own name. The Scott Meredith Literary Agency was a major purveyor of porn manuscripts to publishers like Greenleaf Press.
I bet they had no problem grinding them out either. I wasn't aware that Ellison turned his hand to that genre but it's not that surprising given some of his behaviour in his later years. He did appear to compartmentalise his writing as far as I recall - not much in the way of overspill.
Yep. "Contraterrene matter" is in a number of story outlines for first season TOS episodes, so it was still around in 1966.
"There you go again..."
Well, it's not got a lot to do with their personalities or kinks - they were working writers, and they weren't getting rich at a penny a word from Ziff-Davis. Porn wasn't "beneath" most of these guys.
I've seen at least one online source suggest that they "only" wrote softcore paperbacks. Sorry; I saw a few of Silverberg's. I kind of marveled that he was okay putting his name to some of it.
So yeah, they could grind 'em out on order.
I believe Ellison edited and did a lot of the writing for several Men's magazines during the 1950s. Cavalier?
ETA: It was Rogue and possibly Knight. Ellison claimed to have interviewed, and subsequently got horizontal, with a quite a fair percentage of the models.
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Seriously?????? Oh my that's weird
That never made it into the Disney adaptation. Of course not, it's a Christian-oriented children's book meant to teach moral lessons. In fact, the Disney version was quite violent in parts, involving fighting marauding pirates - if I remember correctly after 50+ years.
Here is an absolutely marvelous Wikipedia article about Rogue and its publisher, William Hamling.
How Robert Silverberg, Harlan Ellison, Scott Meredith and the publisher of Imagination Science Fiction invented the American porn publishing industry.
It is, in fact, terribly written and repetitive. It is nonetheless marvelous as a collection of information and anecdotes about the intersection of the science fiction writers community, the Scott Meredith Agency, Playboy magazine, Greenleaf Press and hard core pornography in America in the 1950s and 1960s. It features appearances by Algis Budrys, Harlan Ellison, Damon Knight, Philip Wylie, Hugh Hefner, Abe Fortas, Hunter S. Thompson, Robert Block. Alfred Bester and a host of other luminaries of the publishing, pulp and legal worlds.
It is worth the struggle to read the whole thing. IMO, YMMV, etc.
How Robert Silverberg, Harlan Ellison, Scott Meredith and the publisher of Imagination Science Fiction invented the American porn publishing industry.
It is, in fact, terribly written and repetitive. It is nonetheless marvelous as a collection of information and anecdotes about the intersection of the science fiction writers community, the Scott Meredith Agency, Playboy magazine, Greenleaf Press and hard core pornography in America in the 1950s and 1960s. It features appearances by Algis Budrys, Harlan Ellison, Damon Knight, Philip Wylie, Hugh Hefner, Abe Fortas, Hunter S. Thompson, Robert Block. Alfred Bester and a host of other luminaries of the publishing, pulp and legal worlds.
It is worth the struggle to read the whole thing. IMO, YMMV, etc.
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I was completely unaware of that overlap but, on reflection, it's perhaps not that surprising although the details of the depth of the extent of the writers' involvement with the porn industry is.
I still can't get over the whole ostrich thing.. Why?
That's not what "Riding On An Ostrich" means.
Well... in “There Were Giants in the Earth” Will chases a space ostrich, which was footage from the unaired pilot, “No Place to Hide.” In that pilot Professor Robinson’s log mentions they were trying to domesticate some local animals.
Pretty sure the space Robinsons did not fuck them.
I bet ostriches don't even give good head like one might expect. Their beaks are probably a bit nippy. And then there's the problem with the sand.
"Fritz gave up his wild ass to me" - I always thought that meant his donkey but now I'm not so sure. I suspect either a bored translator or a more innocent time.
"Fritz gave up his wild ass to me" - I always thought that meant his donkey but now I'm not so sure. I suspect either a bored translator or a more innocent time.
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Sidesaddle was invented to protect the virtue and virginity of women.
The collectible figurines on the bedside shelf make that scene especially poignant.
Which reminds me - I never did hear if the sex arse shortage due to Brexit delays at customs had been sorted yet.
British Tabloid Goes Viral With '10,000 Sex Arses' Brexit Headline (dailydot.com)
Which reminds me - I never did hear if the sex arse shortage due to Brexit delays at customs had been sorted yet.
British Tabloid Goes Viral With '10,000 Sex Arses' Brexit Headline (dailydot.com)
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