Lost from the beginning (NO SPOILERS)
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The finale for me was quite an underwhelming and disappointing affair. Very average and lacking.
The mythology was all but ignored. The action was poorly executed which is astonishing when you look back at all the great action sequences the show had over its run. The fight between Smokey and Jack couldn't have been any more anti-climatic.
We waited 6 years for the mystery of the island to be revealed as a plug and a lame light show. That's the best they could come up with! Jack's brilliant decision-making involved sending Des down into the cave just like Smokey wanted.
Des' purpose all this time was to go down there to pull it out resulting in the island shaking a bit.
Then in a mess of a scene we have Jack making Hurley the new Protector who is an imbecile--and Jack didn't even perform the transfer ceremony correctly.
There was absolutely no tension in the 2.5 hours--it just seemed to drag on and on and on and on... Rarely did I ever look at the clock as I watched an episode of LOST but here I did frequently.
There were a few isolated character moments that were pretty good with the standouts being Juliet & Sawyer reuniting and the whole final act involving what the FSW were(which in hindsight makes all the FSWs contrived and nothing more than red herrings) and Jack's powerful realization. However, those few scenes weren't nearly enough to salvage the rest of the hour.
Normally a poor final season or series finale can be overlooked without negatively impacting the overall opinion of a series but not here with LOST's complex and overly interconnected nature. This season was wasted and felt like the writers were spinning their wheels and going through the motions.
This wasn't the worst series finale I have ever seen but it is nowhere near as good as the true gems like TNG's "All Good Things", DS9's "What You Leave Behind", BSG's "Daybreak"--a show I had problems with and who botched their mythology too but Moore did manage to put together a satisfying and emotional swan song something LOST didn't.
LOST is still one of the better series--sff or otherwise--to come out of the last decade but it could have been so much more with a much more focused final season that did justice to the entire series.
The mythology was all but ignored. The action was poorly executed which is astonishing when you look back at all the great action sequences the show had over its run. The fight between Smokey and Jack couldn't have been any more anti-climatic.
We waited 6 years for the mystery of the island to be revealed as a plug and a lame light show. That's the best they could come up with! Jack's brilliant decision-making involved sending Des down into the cave just like Smokey wanted.
Des' purpose all this time was to go down there to pull it out resulting in the island shaking a bit. Then in a mess of a scene we have Jack making Hurley the new Protector who is an imbecile--and Jack didn't even perform the transfer ceremony correctly.There was absolutely no tension in the 2.5 hours--it just seemed to drag on and on and on and on... Rarely did I ever look at the clock as I watched an episode of LOST but here I did frequently.
There were a few isolated character moments that were pretty good with the standouts being Juliet & Sawyer reuniting and the whole final act involving what the FSW were(which in hindsight makes all the FSWs contrived and nothing more than red herrings) and Jack's powerful realization. However, those few scenes weren't nearly enough to salvage the rest of the hour.
Normally a poor final season or series finale can be overlooked without negatively impacting the overall opinion of a series but not here with LOST's complex and overly interconnected nature. This season was wasted and felt like the writers were spinning their wheels and going through the motions.
This wasn't the worst series finale I have ever seen but it is nowhere near as good as the true gems like TNG's "All Good Things", DS9's "What You Leave Behind", BSG's "Daybreak"--a show I had problems with and who botched their mythology too but Moore did manage to put together a satisfying and emotional swan song something LOST didn't.
LOST is still one of the better series--sff or otherwise--to come out of the last decade but it could have been so much more with a much more focused final season that did justice to the entire series.
I hadn't heard that. Those people clearly didn't watch the same show that I did if they came to that conclusion. (Nor did startrekwatcher for that matter.)
It was the most frustrating thing the night the finale aired! So many people on this website were so pissed off that "they were dead the whole time," and I could not figure out what the hell was going on. It was almost like they just decided not to watch the last 5 minutes where Christian spelled everything out.
Did it have something to do with the plane crash images over the end credits? Those didn't seem to imply anything to me. Lost ended when Jack's eye closed. Those were just something to look at over the credits. Yeah, Christian had spelled it out pretty plainly at the end. He said that some had died before Jack, and some had died long after (Sawyer, Desmond, Hurley, Kate, etc.) If they had all died in the crash, well, they all would have died at the same time.
That was part of it, but it was seriously like everybody took a bathroom break when Christian started talking.
When the Ajira plane flies over Jack as he's dying, many people thought that was supposed to be Oceanic 815 never crashing on the island...or something.
I don't know. It was just obvious that people weren't paying attention or were too stupid to understand what was going on (even though it was laid out very clearly).
When the Ajira plane flies over Jack as he's dying, many people thought that was supposed to be Oceanic 815 never crashing on the island...or something.
I don't know. It was just obvious that people weren't paying attention or were too stupid to understand what was going on (even though it was laid out very clearly).
What really gets me is that I've had a couple of people who have never seen the show talk about the ending and say something to the effect of, "So they really were dead all along after all. Such an obvious ending! 
" And the worst part is I can't correct them without sounding insane trying to explain about flash sideways.
Are you going to watch "The New Man in Charge"?
" And the worst part is I can't correct them without sounding insane trying to explain about flash sideways.Are you going to watch "The New Man in Charge"?
Odo, in one of your reviews a week ago, you noted (I think in reference to the flash-sideways) that this show was about the characters and not the mythology and that point I knew you would love the finale. I'm glad to see I was right. 
Like others, I rewatched the finale multiple times (and cried every time), but I've rewatched the final minutes of the episode (Jack and Kate arriving at the church to the end) many more times. I grin like a bloody fool everytime during the final seconds. Pitch perfect ending.
So when does AfterLOST begin?
Like others, I rewatched the finale multiple times (and cried every time), but I've rewatched the final minutes of the episode (Jack and Kate arriving at the church to the end) many more times. I grin like a bloody fool everytime during the final seconds. Pitch perfect ending.
So when does AfterLOST begin?
Glad you enjoyed the finale, OdoWan. 
I thought it was brilliant, and subsequent viewings have only reinforced that opinion. And yes, I bawl every time, too. 
I thought it was brilliant, and subsequent viewings have only reinforced that opinion. And yes, I bawl every time, too. To put it mildly.It was -very- difficult not spoiling you.
Reading this thread -now- is just making me want to rewatch the series even more. I'm supposed to be going through it with 1-3 friends, but we're having trouble coordinating our schedules.
I'm having an increasing amount of difficulty resisting stealth-watching the show.
I still think in a lot of ways Eloise is the most tragic figure in the entire series. In my head I'm comparing her to James Cole from "12 Monkeys" and wondering whether it's better or worse to be absolutely certain (as opposed to not really sure) of what's going to happen/has already happened.
I'm having an increasing amount of difficulty resisting stealth-watching the show.
I still think in a lot of ways Eloise is the most tragic figure in the entire series. In my head I'm comparing her to James Cole from "12 Monkeys" and wondering whether it's better or worse to be absolutely certain (as opposed to not really sure) of what's going to happen/has already happened.
I might feel more sympathy for Eloise if she weren't always such a bitch about it. I about cheered when Desmond said that he chose to ignore her.
Oh, hey. There's an epilogue thingy!
The New Man in Charge:
Well, that was kinda cool. Seemed like a great big information dump about little mysteries that hadn't been solved (and some that had.) The two warehouse guys were clearly meant to represent the fans. "We deserve answers!" I can't help but feel it was a mistake to shut that thing down, though. They really had a good thing going with those food drops.
Oh, and we see Walt again! My, how he's grown. So his new job is going to be getting rid of those whispers, huh? I guess the implication is that Walt has some kind of psychic ability, but they never really developed it on the show.
So my big question is this: Is it just Hurley, Ben, Walt, Rose and Bernard alone on the island, now? Is Hurley going to do like Jacob and keep bringing people there?
Oh, hey. There's an epilogue thingy!
The New Man in Charge:
Well, that was kinda cool. Seemed like a great big information dump about little mysteries that hadn't been solved (and some that had.) The two warehouse guys were clearly meant to represent the fans. "We deserve answers!"
I can't help but feel it was a mistake to shut that thing down, though. They really had a good thing going with those food drops.Oh, and we see Walt again! My, how he's grown. So his new job is going to be getting rid of those whispers, huh? I guess the implication is that Walt has some kind of psychic ability, but they never really developed it on the show.
So my big question is this: Is it just Hurley, Ben, Walt, Rose and Bernard alone on the island, now? Is Hurley going to do like Jacob and keep bringing people there?
I imagine Hurley used Walt to help the souls leave, and once Rose and Bernard and Ben kicked the bucket, he sunk the island.
But if Ben is now in the Richard position, wouldn't he have probably made him immortal as well? I'm sure Hurley would want to have an adviser that's going to stick around as long as he is.
I really wanted to love the finale but I am still feeling conflicted about it months later. I accept that it was a show about characters, and honestly that was always my favorite part of it, but the reveal of what the flash-sideways was just wasn't all that satisfying to me. It felt too...spiritual. I guess I'm too practical to have truly enjoyed it. I didn't hate the flash-sideways story now, but the whole thing just seemed kind of pointless. If I watched the last season again I would probably skip the flash-sideways parts as I know that they don't really lead to anything except everyone meeting up in a church. It did get me teary eyed but at the same time, as Christian was explaining things, my heart kind of sank as I thought, "oh, well that's kind of boring." It felt like learning the whole season had been someone's dream or something. Just not very satisfying.
The island parts were very good I thought. I loved watching the action and the final scene was quite moving. Overall I just feel a little disappointed about the last season and the finale. Not necessarily because they didn't spell out all the mysteries, but because...well, I'm not sure why. It's just not something I can look at and say I truly loved it or thought it was awesome. It was just alright, nothing amazing.
The island parts were very good I thought. I loved watching the action and the final scene was quite moving. Overall I just feel a little disappointed about the last season and the finale. Not necessarily because they didn't spell out all the mysteries, but because...well, I'm not sure why. It's just not something I can look at and say I truly loved it or thought it was awesome. It was just alright, nothing amazing.
Somehow I can't see Hurley sinking the island. It's more likely he stuck around to protect it. With the unexplained disappearance of the Oceanic Six (and the confusing reappearance of the Ajira flight), curious minds on the mainland might be able to dig up enough information to learn about the island and the benefits to exploiting it.
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Odo, I remember you constantly saying that you wanted Desmond and Penny to have some sort of happy ending and while we didn't get to explicitly see it, I'd like to think that they did. Hurley and Ben sent him home where he was reunited with his wife and child and they lived very long lives and died in their sleep in the same night. I'd also like to think that the people who made it off the Island remained friends like Kate and Claire raised Aaron together and what not and so forth. I feel like this can be a happy ending in multiple ways.
But Ben and Hurley are both dead at the end of the series.
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