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Lost 4x04: "Eggtown"

Ro_Laren said:
Did anyone notice that someone in this episode looked familiar?

Well she looked familiar to me because I just saw her in the "Knight Rider" movie Sunday night. But yeah I recogonized her from TNG too.
 
Agent Richard07 said:
gh4chiefs said:
Agent Richard07 said:
Another thing... I'm surprised that so many of you figured out that Aaron was her "son" before it was revealed. What tipped you off?

Can't speak for others, but I don't know what it was exactly, they just seemed to be telegraphing it with that scene between Kate and Claire and it just kind of came to me as to who her son might be.
When I saw that, I thought that seeing Aaron was simply reminding her of the kid she had.
Emh said:
Agent Richard07 said:
Another thing... I'm surprised that so many of you figured out that Aaron was her "son" before it was revealed. What tipped you off?
Several things for me. First off, Kate didn't want any public scrutinizing of him and based on how she reacted, it wasn't motherly protection. Secondly, the way the episode was constructed, I could tell they weren't going to show the kid until the end (and I knew they would based on the press release: nanny and child) and this told me there would be a big reveal at the end. With those two facts in mind, it seemed quite obvious the child had to be Aaron.
Interesting. That still seems like quite a leap.

Maybe it's a reach, but you have to remember this is LOST we're talking about and it just seemed to be something they would do.
 
One of the things I noticed was the book that Locke brought to Ben to read - Valis by Philip K. Dick - definitely surreal reading - and probably says something about Locke's character, too, as it is a book that deals with life-changing revelations (if memory serves).
 
Agent Richard07 said:
Ro_Laren said:
Did anyone notice that someone in this episode looked familiar?
Yeah. When I first saw the lawyer, I thought... Who is that? I have to look her up. :drool:

Then I realized it was Susan Gibney. She still looks great.

I wouldn't have known the actress's name, and it wasn't her looks so much that reminded me, more her mannerisms. But for the life of me I couldn't figure it out.

Thanks a lot. :bolian:
 
A random thought that struck me at interesting. And I think it was a line in the episode and not the preview for next week, but at one point Locke said "I'm here to protect this island". Protecting the island, not the people on it, the island itself.

Maybe it just shows Locke is stark raving mad, and maybe that's all it is, but I thought that was kind of interesting.
 
Jenee said:
Agent Richard07 said:
Ro_Laren said:
Did anyone notice that someone in this episode looked familiar?
Yeah. When I first saw the lawyer, I thought... Who is that? I have to look her up. :drool:

Then I realized it was Susan Gibney. She still looks great.

I wouldn't have known the actress's name, and it wasn't her looks so much that reminded me, more her mannerisms. But for the life of me I couldn't figure it out.

Thanks a lot. :bolian:
I was in the same boat. Familiar but not sure. There is certainly an alluring factor with her.
 
gh4chiefs said:
A random thought that struck me at interesting. And I think it was a line in the episode and not the preview for next week, but at one point Locke said "I'm here to protect this island". Protecting the island, not the people on it, the island itself.

Maybe it just shows Locke is stark raving mad, and maybe that's all it is, but I thought that was kind of interesting.

I've been thinking Locke's been raving mad for two whole seasons now.
 
When he put a grenade in Miles' mouth, that pretty much sealed the fact that he's a lunatic and needs to be taken out before he hurts someone. - er, else. hurts someone else.
 
Jenee said:
When he put a grenade in Miles' mouth, that pretty much sealed the fact that he's a lunatic and needs to be taken out before he hurts someone. - er, else. hurts someone else.

Or before another "hatch" gets blown up.
 
It'll turn out to be fake. I think he was merely trying to exert his dominance but he's essentially impotent.
 
I haven't liked Locke since ... well, before he lied about how Boone died.
 
Velocity said:
Maybe Jack was responsible for Claire's death or he couldn't save her and now (in the future) he can't face her motherless child. Jack is big on guilt.

Yeah that seems probable to me. Especially if Jack learns Claire is his half-sister before he fails to save her life (or leaves her on the Island with the rest of them - maybe the Boaties will only take one more, so she gives up Aaron.) Either way, Jack gets to pursue his favorite hobby of wallowing in guilt about it.

It might be common knowledge that Aaron is Kate's adopted son. Claire survives the crash but is injured. She survives long enough to give birth and then dies before the rescue.

Since Aaron wasn't on the 815 manifest, does Aaron count as one of the Oceanic 6?

And how could the notion that they all almost "starved to death" on a deserted island be a plausible part of the cover story if Hurley is one of the rescuees? ;)

Oh ps, I gave this Above Average. The Kate soap opera doesn't really interest me but there's a lot of other stuff here worth watching. Anyone watch Big Love and recognize Kate's lawyer as Joey Henrickson? No? Okay forget I said anything. :D

Mark my words, timelag is the new purgatory

It's a time offset. The Island is 31 minutes behind the reality of the flash-forwards. When it's noon on the island, it's 12:31pm out there on the boat. It's just like being in a different time zone. You call your friend and it's noon for you and 1pm for them. Ooooh spooky! :D

If time were moving slower on the Island to as much of a degree as indicated by the test, then Aaron should be older. (And rain should fall and waves crash noticeably slower, which we've seen they don't.) But if the offset is permanently 31 minutes, then he's 31 minutes younger than he should be, no big deal.
 
Do you think it's implied that Jack is the 'father' of Kate's child? They must know she wasn't pregnant when she left on 815, and supposedly 'Sawyer' never survived the crash, so he wouldn't be the father.
 
She must have gotten pregnant on the island. That's why I thought they were pointing us towards Sawyer being the daddy. Kate might have not been pregnant before she and Sawyer started goin' at it like bunnies in this episode...

But I think people know that Kate is Aaron's adoptive mother and that Claire survived long enough to give birth. I don't know the legal aspects of someone being tried for murder having custody of a child, but if there were people to vouch that the mother wanted Kate to raise Aaron, that would count for a lot. Plus Kate was not yet convicted.

What were Dan and Charlotte doing with the cards and why was Dan trying to recall them? remote viewing?

Maybe something to do with probability - what are the odds you could deal out cards and guess them correctly? Instead of time being screwy on the island, it could be the laws of probability. That gets us back to all the coincidence of the numbers.
 
Flukie said:
Do you think it's implied that Jack is the 'father' of Kate's child? They must know she wasn't pregnant when she left on 815, and supposedly 'Sawyer' never survived the crash, so he wouldn't be the father.

I don't think there's any way to reconcile Kate passing Aaron off as her own. There's just no way she could have been pregnant and have a kid that age. Sure there could be time weirdness somehow but that wouldn't pass as a cover story since I'm guessing any weird properties of the island aren't public knowledge.

The only way I can think of to explain it is that if Claire's not dead then everyone thinks she is. Of course in that case what would Kate's legal rights to Aaron be? Surely over-protective Aunt Lindsay might have something to say about someone else raising Claire's baybay. There's all kinds of ways this shouldn't be working out. Ah well, such is Lost.
 
Temis the Vorta said:
If time were moving slower on the Island to as much of a degree as indicated by the test, then Aaron should be older. (And rain should fall and waves crash noticeably slower, which we've seen they don't.) But if the offset is permanently 31 minutes, then he's 31 minutes younger than he should be, no big deal.
Even if time were moving slower, the rain falling and waves crashing would appear normal because they would have adjusted to the same rate as everything else on or near the island.
 
One of the things I noticed was the book that Locke brought to Ben to read - Valis by Philip K. Dick - definitely surreal reading - and probably says something about Locke's character, too, as it is a book that deals with life-changing revelations (if memory serves).

My first thought was it was a Philip K. Dick book. I bought The Man in the High Castle a while back (which I still need to read) and that book and his other books have a very similiar book design. A crappy book design too...I miss the old days when book covers had such better and more original designs.

Anyway, didn't the season finale last year imply Jack had been off the island for three years? So it would make sense that Aaron's at least two or three here. It takes years to bring a case to trial sometimes, especially given the circumstances here. Even with the Marshall dead, the prosecution must have thought they had a pretty strong case.
 
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