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Lost 4x04: "Eggtown"

I was really torn between Average and Above but went with AA.

Locke using the grenade is just batshit crazy. And it better turn out to be real and not defused. He's trying to turn himself into the new Ben. He's trying to be ruthless. The grenade being fake would take away the buildup.

Figured Kate would end up with a slap. And I think we saw the first inkling of Jack's downward spiral.

I'm really getting tired at the number of commercials we have going on.
 
Oh yeah, the grenade breakfast was CLASSIC. I made the mistake of not introducing myself, heh heh.
 
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Above Average. There really wasn't anything wrong with the episode per se but it was definitely missing that little zip that made the last three easy Excellent votes. However, as Kate stories go, this is the best one we've seen.

It may have affected my enjoyment that I knew about the Aaron reveal going in. Didn't know anything else about the episode though.

I hope that grenade is real. It would certainly take the cake as far as badass things Locke has done. And he's done some pretty bad shit.

The most interesting thing about the episode, though, even with all the other stuff going on is Jack's version of events in the future. It does raise some questions as to how everyone believes Aaron is actually Kate's kid. Or do they? Who knows. The Oceanic 6 lie is quickly becoming the most compelling part of the season for me, though. That's for sure.

Can't wait for next week. It, like "The Economist" when I saw it, is an episode I currently know nothing about beyond the press release so it oughta be good. Desmond episodes always kick ass anyway.
 
I never guessed it was Aaron. Going in, I thought she was shacking up with Ben. When she revealed that she had a son, I thought it was a kid she had before the crash.
 
This one was closer to an "average" for me. The music seemed to think the "shockers" before commercial breaks were more exciting than they actually were. The stuff with Kate and Claire was pretty lame, this is the sort of thing they should have set up a little earlier. "I'm not so good with babies" since when?!? The Aaron reveal at the end got me hooked again though, I really like this idea that the survivors are all lying and have to keep telling a fake story. Jack's testimony was great in that regard, but of course I do have to wonder how long the writers are going to string this one along.

My one huge problem with the show since day 1 continued this week, too. Why bother having 40+ people crash on the island, when only the main characters are connected to each and have interesting stories? The "survival" aspect of the show has long been forgotten for all the wacky mystery adventures, so I don't really know what those extras have been doing all this time. What happened to all the people that went with Locke? All we saw this week was Kate, Claire, and Sawyer. All those extras are pointless, and I never buy it when they get excited when someone comes back to the beach or whatever, because up til now they haven't done ANYTHING. Except look for diamonds and then die. ;)
 
Speaking of babies on the Island... didn't the Survivors learn from Juliet that any woman who gets pregnant on the Island will DIE? Sun learned this surely she told the rest of the women.

IE these people need to stop having sex immediately or the women are going to die!

It also raises the question, surely all these people have been paired off and screwing off-screen for the past 100 days. And we've learned that anyone on the Island becomes super-fertile. So how many of these women are pregnant and doomed to die????
 
Karl, Alex, and Danielle should be around, too, unless they decided to run off on their own...
 
It would be nice if the extras with Locke were at least referred to by name or something. I doubt they'll give them anything interesting to do because of the backlash of Niki and Paulo, but they should at least acknowledge that they are there.
 
It's probably just that the first 3 episodes this season were that good, but I was pretty underwhelmed by this apparent paint-by-numbers episode.

The Kate episodes are seldom among my favorites but this was pretty dry throughout. The way she acts around Sawyer doesn't make any sense half the time. Her mom not testifying was hardly earth-shattering.

Ben's right, Locke's definitely lost and I really don't care for a Locke that's lost anymore. I've had enough of that over the first three years and I'd like to see him start walking down the path that destiny holds for him already.

The reveal at the end that the baby was Aaron, wasn't even that big a suprise. I mean, who didn't think we were heading for a "twist" when they revealed who the baby was.

All in all, a pretty average episode with only a few redeeming qualities. The gernade in the mouth was pretty sweet, though. :) Beyond that, I was really underwhelmed by what Miles had to say to Ben. Extortion? Really? That's the big deal? If that's all Miles really wanted to say, that's pretty stupid.
 
The twist reveal I was expecting was that Kate's son would be six years old or something because of the time lag. Because they were talking about bringing out the kid at the trial... like he was old enough to give testimony.
 
Mr Light said:
The twist reveal I was expecting was that Kate's son would be six years old or something because of the time lag. Because they were talking about bringing out the kid at the trial... like he was old enough to give testimony.
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Yeah, I had a similiar thought early on when the lawyer suggested they use her son and thought maybe that would further clue us in to a time-differential on the island since I assumed her son would be older. Sadly, we got nothing approaching that interesting. ;)
 
I give this episode an Above Average. I liked the ending, but I didn't really care for the island story. In the first 3 seasons, I greatly preferred the island story to the flashback story in each episode, but now in season 4 I've liked the flash-forward story much more than the island stories. I think the island stories need to stop spinning their wheels and give us some answers. And then there's Jack with a satellite phone, and what does he do? He keeps phoning the freighter the whole time. Why doesn't he try another number? Why doesn't he phone home like E.T.? The writers even wrote a line for Juliet commenting on this. And then there's Kate asking Miles what he knows about her. Unfortunately, we already know about her backstory so there's nothing new there. If I was on the island I would be trying to figure out what the hell is going on, but all the characters on Lost seem not to care that there are supernatural things happening on the island. It's a little unbelievable. But it's been going on for 4 seasons, so I've come to expect it. I just hope the last episode ties everything up in a satisfying way.

Again, I did give it an above average because I did enjoy the flash forward a good bit, but once again the island story fails to have any relevance on the show as a whole.
 
The episode actually made me sad for some reason. Everyone seems depressed when they get off the island. Here are some of my random thoughts:

1- I too was able to tell too early that Aaron was going to end up being Kate's "son"
2- If Claire is one of the Oceanic 6 then that is some bizarre twist
3- Claire will end up dying or being really sad when she has to give up Aaron
4- The helicopter didn't crash because Claire and Aaron have to get rescued by it (...unless the freighter has another helicopter)
5- Only eight survivors??? The Oceanic 6, the U.S. Marshall, and who else?
6- "Deserted" island
7- If Jack learns that Aaron is his half-nephew, then why doesn't he want to see him?? Perhaps, as already mentioned on this thread, Jack won't be able to save Claire and will feel guilty
8- Would Aaron even have been old enough to testify in that trial?
9- How old do you think Aaron is? That can help us figure out how long it will be before they all get rescued
10- Miles is annoying and I hope he drops his breakfast
11- Charlotte is annoying too and I hope she is around Miles when he drops his breakfast
12- 3.2 million? Is he hard up on cash? Why did he give that lady $100 back in the freighter flashback episode?
13- Did anyone notice that Kate left Ben in an unlocked cell?
14- How long is it going to take before Ben breaks out?
15- Is this episode before or after last season's finale? If it is after, then who is the man that Kate needed to get back to? Ben?
16- It's weird seeing Kate wear make-up
 
Does anyone know the significance of the title? I'm not really sure what the word "Eggtown" is even referring to.
 
D Man said:
Does anyone know the significance of the title? I'm not really sure what the word "Eggtown" is even referring to.
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From Lostpedia:

"Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into to Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case.

References in this episode include:

* The inability of Locke to makes any progress with the interrogation of Ben or Miles.
* The "bad deal" the Oceanic 6 made, thinking that leaving the Island was more important than the consequences of leaving.
* The deal that Miles ended up with. He came with high hopes of getting 3.2 million dollars and ended up just with a grenade in his mouth.
* The deal Kate made. She is now forbidden to leave the state and thus can't go back to the island for any reason for at least ten years. "
 
Interesting that Locke knocked Ben for living with electricity and chicken in the refrigerator last season and this year he's living it up in Ben's home.

Speaking of those two, it would be interesting if Locke becomes more of the villian while Ben becomes more of a hero.
 
Of course, all the rest of the Others are still hanging out somewhere on the island. Can't forget about that bunch just yet.....
 
...she must have claimed that Aaron was hers for whatever reason... no way they'd give her custody with a trial on capital crimes hanging over her like that.
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