At that juncture when he made the decision to save his crew by killing them, what results was he actually getting? Surely losing your ship and its crew is considered a defeat. So to say he was getting results is confusing .. He may be now but that is after he was given a new command.
Lorca is a coward and murderer, how come he's a Starfleet Captain still??
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There are two huge differences. A) Janeway ultimately didn’t/couldn’t. Lorca did. B) Janeway would have shared the same fate as her crew, and not cowardly abandon them to their deaths!
But I forgot. Lorca has to suffer through life with bad eyesight. Well, whoop-de-doo!
this is exactly what the writers want. for trekkies to debate half a story.
Yes the eye thing is a real cheap trade off for not being dead yourself.
Oh, the war must be going horribly. Imagine the level of desperation that the Federation must be experiencing in order for this kind of thing to be acceptable - the sacrifice of every civilizing principle, even of basic common sense. Casualties in the hundreds and hundreds of billions, at least. Blind panic fueling military decisions.
Or else the writers haven't thought it through, or just don't give a fuck and hope you don't think it through.
"Getting results" justifies any kind of cowardly and despicable behavior in fiction now? Can't wait to see Admiral William Calley's guest appearance somewhere down the line.
In fact we have zero evidence that Lorca was doing anything particularly well during his command of the Buran. A lot of us are willing to assume that because we're accustomed to giving any featured character in Star Trek who's wearing Captain's rank the benefit of every doubt.
The eagerness of fans to make excuses and apologize for the mediocrity of this series is both amusing and irritating.
And everyone try to remember that no one is at war here. This is a TV series; the writers chose to tell a story about war and they choose the plot, character and story elements as they go (apparently, in Discovery's case, kind of randomly and on the fly).
The producers of Discovery decided to make up a bit about Lorca executing his crew, apparently because it sounded edgy and troubled and they didn't bother to think through the consequences of this. I mean, he's essentially been promoted in the aftermath of losing his ship with all hands aboard - I'm sorry, he killed them all, because that's so much better than being prisoners (isn't this what our military officers customarily do?) because Why? Well, because apparently there's no more successful and reliable officer in all of Starfleet that could be put in charge of the development of their most critical research vessel.
This is stupid writing, which they get away with only because they know that they have a dependable core audience of a couple of million adulatory fanatics who will pretty much not question what they're watching as long as they see phasers and transporters and kewl-but-completely-familiar stuff.
Truly, this is a Star Trek for the "Make American Great Again" crowd.
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Then I salute your need for instant gratification.
The Ceti Eel was potentially dangerous. Stuart was clearly not.
It was stealing food from other inmates to feed Mudd, and could easily be bugged again. So, yes, Stuart was potentially dangerous.
Why is a Spiders life worth less than a mans?
Stuart is a douchebag. You don’t steal people’s food Stuart!
Not to put too fine a point on it, but... so did Kirk. And he knowingly committed a bunch of other premeditated crimes in the process, during a time when the Federation wasn't at war. He still got off with just a token demotion to captain, and awarded command of the Enterprise-A.
We don't know enough about the circumstances to make any informed opinion on the situation.
At the moment, we can imagine Lorca running to the nearest escape pod as fast as possible when the enemies boarded his ship, finally shooting down his starship crew mates because he didn't believe in their capacity to fight and gain back the control of the ship. It's just ridiculous. We don't have enough information.
At the moment, we can imagine Lorca running to the nearest escape pod as fast as possible when the enemies boarded his ship, finally shooting down his starship crew mates because he didn't believe in their capacity to fight and gain back the control of the ship. It's just ridiculous. We don't have enough information.
One small detail though... He didn’t kill 100-400 crewmen!!!
Because he saved the planet.
It does feel like that at times. Which is a shame.
Isaacs is an incredibly talented actor, but the Lorca back story makes little to no sense.
He also blew up a heavily battered 40 year old wreck about to be scrapped anyway with no SF personnel aboard. Not a perfectly useful one with 130 people.
You roll your eyes, but can you name a redeeming quality of the Klingons after five episodes?
