Lorca is a coward and murderer, how come he's a Starfleet Captain still??
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But how would they escape a Klingon ship in an escape pod.
He's a Starfleet officer (and a captain at that) - he shouldn't go around throwing life forms that show no deliberate hostility against walls.
He killed his crew and tortured Ripper. He wouldn't make a Starfleet officer's ar.. armpit.
Of all the problems this show has, how Lorca treated the bug isn't one of them. I would have done the same thing in his position. If its alive, the Klingons can simply paste another listening device to it.
People, it’s a Trek trope to threaten to destroy your own ship. It’s even a Trek trope to destroy your own ship. It’s NOT a Trek trope to destroy your own ship with the crew STILL INSIDE!
And if the captain does as is the lone survivor Starfleet certainly won’t award him by giving him command of a brand new highly classified ship!!!
And if the captain does as is the lone survivor Starfleet certainly won’t award him by giving him command of a brand new highly classified ship!!!
Wasn't it a robot? I don't think it was self-aware or a living creature, despite Harry's expressed affection for it or its programmed reaction to being thrown.
It was still childish of Lorca, and also potentially counterproductive if moments later he had realized there was an objective in their escape that he wanted to accomplish and could if only he had access to a tiny robot.
It was still childish of Lorca, and also potentially counterproductive if moments later he had realized there was an objective in their escape that he wanted to accomplish and could if only he had access to a tiny robot.
I’m disappointed. I expected a punchline. You know, like "he’s a fungi" and "shroom that goes vroom".
Honestly, I'd say the crews attitude towards life is the ONLY problem with this show, I have absolutely no problem with visual updates.
I don't think so, I could be wrong.
Well I was going to suggest we start calling him 'Wrenchy' - since he's a tool and all...
And you felt the need to make an entire topic about that instead of just posting your thought in the thread for the episode itself?
Evidently.
What? Janeway was ready to blow up Voyager with all hands when it was boarded by the Kazon in Basics pt 1. The only reason that didn't work was because Seska had anticipated that move and had the Kazon take out Voyagers secondary processors. So the notion that a Captain won't blow up a ship with all hands to prevent capture isn't accurate. There's even a starfleet regulation supporting it.
The issue isn't that he blew up the ship, it's how did he survive. Like we've all been saying, we don't know the full circumstances yet. He could have been forced into an escape pod for all we know. Maybe it will turn out out that he did something cowardly and needs to be removed from command, or maybe it won't. Let's just see what they do with it.
It's shocking that this story if taken at face value is not just disgusting. No excuses. How on earth did he get rewarded for it?
Yes but during war, we often compromise our morals in the name of "getting results" because winning becomes paramount. It has happened countless times in history and we are seeing that play out in Discovery.
Honestly, I had no issue with Lorca destroying his ship with all hands onboard. Many Trek shows have shown the captain initiating the self-destruct sequence only to cancel at the last minute, and the crew generally does not make it to escape pods. Also, the whole thing about him not getting his eyes fixed shows - to have the pain remind him of what he did - shows he's not a sociopath, and he really thought he was making the best choice.
The only question is why did he escape when no one else did. We don't know enough information yet to judge. It may be that he was under orders to return intelligence to Starfleet. It may also have been the case that when he got to the escape pod everyone he ran into along the way was dead, and he couldn't drag anyone along with him. We have to wait and see.
The only question is why did he escape when no one else did. We don't know enough information yet to judge. It may be that he was under orders to return intelligence to Starfleet. It may also have been the case that when he got to the escape pod everyone he ran into along the way was dead, and he couldn't drag anyone along with him. We have to wait and see.
Lorca is super-special! They got Lorca having total autonomy from the TNG novels, where the President of the UFP pretty much gave Picars cart blanche to do what he wants with the Enterprise-E.
I guess it would be harder to win a war and respect your morals.
